About time someone noticed really, isn’t it?

Consumers are paying too much for their energy because of “excessive” green taxes added to bills, a damning Government-commissioned report has found.

A series of “spectacularly bad” decisions by ministers have “unnecessarily burdened” households and businesses with higher green energy subsidies than necessary, according to Prof 
Dieter Helm, of Oxford University.

Some of us have been saying this for some time now.

Even under Stern’s carbon tax it should have been about £30 billion tops. More than that is being charged – when we include, as we should the fuel duty escalator etc. Too much is being paid therefore.

That’s before we get into the nonsense manner in which they’ve actually done it.

22 thoughts on “About time someone noticed really, isn’t it?”

  1. If I might expand on the Instapundit, and steal from him, green and climate change politics offer ample opportunities for graft.

  2. It could be worse. Australia has something like a quarter of the world’s proven uranium reserves, coal and gas out the wazoo – and yet blackouts due to renewables being prioritised over anything that might keep the lights on.

    Expensive is one thing. Demand management (we’ll switch you off) is another. Down Under summer is nearly here, I expect we’ll get cut off from time to time. Not Third World – we’ll live – but not great either.

  3. The Greenfreak show must be shut down. It is as simple as that.

    And piss on Stern and his tripe as well.

    No “green” taxes whatsoever.

  4. My late Grandfather always reckoned that if the government could find a way to tax thin air, they would. Seems like Grandad was right.

  5. As far as fuel taxes go, I won’t drive an extra mile if the price comes down – I promise. I can’t drive fewer miles, because every journey has a reason. Does anyone go for a drive for simple pleasure any more? (Excluding car thieves and plod, of course, with their street racing).

    Remember that the fuel taxes are paid from already taxed income (well, they are in my case), and the 57.95p per litre tax is compounded up by the 20% VAT to about 72p per litre, which leaves around 48p for all the costs of extraction, transport, refining, distribution and so on, including the miniscule profits taken by the various organisations down the line. Oops, 1/6 of that 48p is also VAT, so the tax take is actually currently 80p, with 40p left for the providers.

    No wonder the petrol stations all seem to have turned into mini supermarkets these days.

    At 40% income tax, to get the 120p for a litre of fuel, I needed to get paid £2, so in reality I paid that £2 for 40p’s worth of product. My 50 litre fill costs in reality £100,

    And what do they spend it on? (Don’t answer, I already know).

  6. Governments need revenue to operate. Hence they have the power to tax the people. Green taxes raise revenue for the state, a necessity.

    “Taxes should be general and applied in equal amounts or equal rates.” – GC

    Green taxes meet my requirements for proper taxes. All the greeny stuff is irrelevant. They are just taxes. Good taxes.

  7. @Gamecock, October 26, 2017 at 11:05 am

    Green taxes meet my requirements for proper taxes. All the greeny stuff is irrelevant. They are just taxes. Good taxes.

    Yes, taxing the Greens who believe the anthropogenic global warming myth and not taxing the realists would be sensible.

    However, I doubt that’s what you meant – idiot

  8. @Witchie, October 26, 2017 at 10:26 am

    Does anyone go for a drive for simple pleasure any more?

    Yes, many men who own Porsches, Ferraris, M5s etc

    Does anyone go for a ride for simple pleasure any more?

    Yes, many bikers do including Longrider

  9. This is why I advocate for a carbon tax even though I believe anthropogenic climate change to be utter claptrap – at least with a carbon tax the amount is set by “the science” and politicians can’t use it as a way of passing bungs to their favourite lobbyists.

  10. “Does anyone go for a drive for simple pleasure any more?”

    I rode my BMW R 1200 R two hours this afternoon.

  11. “Yes, taxing the Greens who believe the anthropogenic global warming myth and not taxing the realists would be sensible.

    However, I doubt that’s what you meant – idiot”

    All citizens should be equal before the law. That includes taxation. Your idea of using taxation punitively is evil. Return to your cave.

  12. @Gamecock

    “All citizens should be equal before the law. That includes taxation. Your idea of using taxation punitively is evil. Return to your cave.”

    So then I assume that you are willing to get rid of the progressive income tax and all “sin” taxes?

  13. “So then I assume that you are willing to get rid of the progressive income tax and all “sin” taxes?”

    Close, idiot.

    Progressive income tax is evil.

    “Sin” taxes are okay if they are general. A tax on alcohol is fine, because it is generally consumed.

    The government should not be allowed to use its legitimate taxing authority to compel or even influence behavior – it’s not their job.

    Andy Rooney (RIP) many years ago proposed a four-line income tax form:

    A. How much money did you make? ______
    B. How much did you spend to make it? _____
    C. Enter difference: ______
    D. Your tax – enter 10% of line C: _____

    If government wants to increase the tax – or lower it (ha ha ha) – they simply change the percentage rate in line D.

    WHAT ABOUT THE POOR? Government should not recognize “poor,” or “rich.”

    If income tax cannot be done at a flat rate, DON’T USE IT! There are a million other ways and things to tax.

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