Really not a good idea

The Lords, in contrast, should represent vocational democracy. There should be people elected from each sector, whether that be electrical or academic, medical or administrative. Doctors should vote for a peer, as should nurses and cleaners. It would give an incentive to the organisation of carers, builders and gardeners, who would each select a representative from within their organisation.

The biggest point about a market economy is that, over time, it’s the best way of managing sectoral change. At one point coal mining was absolutely essential to this sceptered isle. Today it’s of no importance at all. That it was government owned is a major reason the rundown of it was so difficult.

Now imagine that coal miners got to elect, as a constituency, members of the legislature. That change is going to be even more difficult, isn’t it?

That is, vocational democracy sets in stone the current distribution of vocations. When entirely the point of economic management is to ease changes in that distribution as desires and technology change.

17 thoughts on “Really not a good idea”

  1. @ Mr Ecks. There are plenty of current peers with vast experience in whoring themselves for profit. The working women would be spoilt for choice.

  2. So Much For Subtlety

    It sounds a little bit familiar …..

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chamber_of_Fasci_and_Corporations

    It was established on January 19, 1939, to replace the Chamber of Deputies during the 30th legislature of Italy. Members of the chamber were called ‘”national councilors” (consiglieri nazionali) rather than deputies. The councilors of the chamber did not represent geographic constituencies, but the different branches of the trade and industry of Italy, thus reflecting the corporativist idea of fascist ideology.

    And I know it is out of fashion and a trifle uncool, but the last time it was tried, it did not do so badly. At least when compared to what came before and what came afterwards.

  3. Guilds worked great last time.

    I would like to see jury service or a house devoted to the employed private sector.

  4. Bloke in North Dorset

    smfs,

    Which just goes to prove what we’ve always known, that the left are fascists in all but name.

  5. It’s not the last time it was tried, it is half the system in Hong Kong. When it was introduced it was plainly admitted that it was a transitional system for a developing democracy, not a system that a mature democracy would have but a stepping point on the way there.

    So this is arguing that the UK is at the Hong Kong level of democratic development. Wonderful, when do I get my tax refund share of the budget surplus?

  6. An upper chamber of unelected and hereditary peers, gently augmented by some life peers, was as perfect a revising chamber as flawed human nature could devise.

  7. @Hallowed Be, October 21, 2017 at 9:17 am

    The idea i like was the one which was akin to jury service.

    That occured to me too. However, calculating salaries based on current earnings plus lack of advancement & experience for a eg 5 year term would be difficult.

  8. @Theophrastus, October 21, 2017 at 6:55 pm

    An upper chamber of unelected and hereditary peers, gently augmented by some life peers, was as perfect a revising chamber as flawed human nature could devise.

    +1

    Blair deserves to burn in hell for eternity for destroying HoL and so many other British institutions.

  9. @Pcar: I would suggest that Blair and his harridan deserve to burn in the here and now for their attacks on Britain, the destruction of the Lords and the rubbing of British noses in the third-world filth of the world.

  10. There should be people elected from each sector … Doctors should vote for a peer, as should nurses

    Doctors and nurses are in the same sector. Interesting insight into the writer’s mindset.

  11. @Paul Rain, October 22, 2017 at 8:21 am

    I would suggest that Blair and his harridan deserve to burn in the here and now for their attacks on Britain, the destruction of the Lords and the rubbing of British noses in the third-world filth of the world.

    I like your thinking. Blair & his frog mouthed witch are RCs and 5th November is soon… or one on 5 Nov in GB & the other on 12 July in NI

    Greens should agree, stop their Clintonesque money grubbing global travels.

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