The Sage on Amazon

Is the Commissioner skating on thin ice though when all the tax dimensions of this case have still to be resolved? I suggest not. Tax disputes may take years to resolve. The impact of unfair competition is seen considerably more quickly. The impact of a tax structure can be real, and detrimental to fair competition irrespective of the technical legality of a tax scheme: it is not true that because a tax scheme is legal it is beneficial to society or fair markets. There is then an over-arching imperative for the Commissioner to act to protect markets.

Isn’t that delightful. People not only can but should rip up the law if they feel like it.

As it happens it’s even possible that the Commission got this one right. If Amazon was charging itself a market rate royalty then they should have been fine. Transfer pricing and all that. It’s possible that they were more than a bit ambitious….

26 thoughts on “The Sage on Amazon”

  1. His motto can be read as

    ‘Just because it’s legal doesn’t make it right’

    The jusitfication for mob rule everywhere. I note that two new concepts are also introduced in this scattergun thought.

    ‘Society’ supplants ‘Civil Society’ as something Murphy has unique knowledge of and for which he is spokesperson

    ‘Fair Markets’ replaces ‘Fair Tax’ and again he and his ilk, representing the ‘silent majority’ are the arbiters of what these consititute.

    He is a power mad dotard with less powers of expression than my 2 year old son.

  2. Philip Scott Thomas

    He is a power mad dotard with less powers of expression than my 2 year old son.

    Rocket Man’s generous gift to the world was to remind us of the delightful and useful word ‘dotard’.

  3. VP

    Indeed.

    The degree to which he arrogates to himself powers as spokesperson, legislator, judge and jury on behalf of the entire population of a country is quite breath taking in its arrogance and dismissiveness.

    And all this from an unimpressive end terrace in Ely. Truly Mein Kampf must have been an inspiration.

  4. I like his post on “team players”.

    The man who has fallen out with everyone he has ever worked with (TJN, Christian Aid, Corbyn’s Labour, Vince Cable, companies, business partners and wives x2) comments on other people not being team players.

    Rest assured he’s going to piss off the Technical College very soon too.

  5. “The impact of a tax structure can be real, and detrimental to fair competition irrespective of the technical legality of a tax scheme” stump thinking again – remember kids, flat taxes are social engineering. But Amazon’s taxes should be more flat. Because reasons.

  6. When I Google “stump thinking” I get no hits.

    Perhaps someone who knows how to do it could make a Wikipedia entry both defining It, attributing its origin and giving examples from the great man himself?

  7. @AndrewC

    “Stump thinking” came from here (specifically me 🙂 ) and is used exclusively here to my knowledge.

    It comes from the green stump scorpion thing in Flash Gordon where 80’s Bond has to put his hand in to be stung to death. Or not.

    Spud is the green scorpion thingy. His view on the world is only through the various holes in his stump. So he only sees little parts of the world at any one time, which makes joined-up and coherent thinking difficult in the best of cases. Also, every so often the priest-type druidy guy twats him on the head with a big staff, which furthermore dulls his senses and renders him more confused.

    So through Hole 1 he sees A, he fixates on it and writes a blogpost on it. Later, he looks through Hole 2, and sees something different that contradicts A, but he’s still drowsy from the latest blow on the head and forgets what he saw through Hole 1 and doesn’t notice the contradiction.

    He’s also venomous and green. So it’s apt 😀

  8. @abacab

    I knew the phrase was invented here. I think such a marvelously apt phrase deserves wider recognition.

  9. Philip Scott Thomas

    I am as grateful to Kim Jong un for reminding me of the word ‘dotard’ as Murphy is for providing a real-life example of ‘The Curajus state’

  10. The Pedant-General

    “There is then an over-arching imperative for the Commissioner to act to protect markets.”

    Which very much requires aforesaid Commissioner not to play fast and lose with the rule of law…

  11. The Sage of Ely recently opined there should be no place in Parliament for someone with Jacob Rees Mogg’s repellant views. One wonders what sanction there should be for a nation’sprite minister who works out behind-closed-doors sweetheart deals with corporations. Does it depend on whether the Sage is being funded by his organisation?

  12. If the Commission got this wrong, then Juncker should resign for the Commission’s error.

    I the Commission got this right, then Juncker should resign for Luxembourg’s error.

  13. Just think, amazon can put its UK prices and fees up to pay the tax due in Lux. I’m sure all those who complain amazon don’t pay taxes will be pleased. Even if they are the ones paying for it.

  14. @ Ironman
    I find Dennis Skinner’s behaviour repellant and Ed Millionaireband’s subsidy for rich home-owners’ solar PV panels at the expense of the poorest consumers repellant and John McDonnell’s sanctioning of anti-Tory thugs repellant and Diane Abbott’s hypocrisy (OK nearly everything about Diane Abbott) repellant …
    Can I ban them from Parliament? No, we have a representative democracy and if there are scum wanting scum to represent them we must tolerate that.

  15. When did Murph work for Vince Cable?

    INcidentally, I see that the Frenchies lost their 1.x billion tax Calvin against Google.

  16. it is not true that because a tax scheme is legal it is beneficial to society or fair markets

    Didn’t he used to get tax-free grants, and defended the tax bit by saying it was legal?

  17. Bloke in North Dorset

    Jack C,

    No, Amazon believes in investing in a long term growth strategy rather than short term profits, as demanded by anti capitalist lefties like Murphy.

  18. Jack C – amazon makes a profit most years. They are still growing quickly – and like growing companies elsewhere they grow rather than show end of year profit in high figures.

  19. €250m, I bet someone in Ely is very unhappy and throwing a tantrum. Expect more of the usual nonsense from Snippa the Sage tomorrow. MOAR tax, anyone ?

  20. @Diogenes

    That was a misdirection by my Apple iPad. Who are they protecting by programming their software to do that?

    Amazon were predestined to be condemned from before the creation of the world, ‘cos the Murphaloon said so.

  21. Matt, Calvin must be a popular word amongst iPad users. If it starts with c and has an l, an a and an i, you must be typing Calvin

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