Yes, OK then, why not?

Is it not time that our heavily subsidised universities restricted entry to those students who have passed through the state education system? Let those who pay for private secondary education also pay for private university education.
Alan G Stow
Tring

Be interesting when state pupils can choose Islington Technical College or Brent Further Education College and the private sector has Oxford, Cambridge and the LSE to choose from.

21 thoughts on “Yes, OK then, why not?”

  1. Another terrible letter to the Guardian:

    When I was at Oxford in 1961-4, there was a roughly 50% private/state intake. I was one of the latter (and wouldn’t have been without a state scholarship). This is not possible now, but what about reduction, or abolition, of fees for the poorest?

    The state scolarship still exists. The only change since the ‘60s is that they ask you pay it back if the degree gained helps you to command a higher salary.

  2. Its almost as if the Left are trying to design a system whereby the poor and working classes are funnelled into a system that will do nothing but keep them poor and working class. They’ve already done that to the State primary and secondary education system, and if they ensure the tertiary goes the same way, there really is no way out from the bottom of the pile.

  3. What about those who passed through the private system without their parents having to pay for it?

    Oh, but that’s too complicated and would require the letter writer to know more than the chip on his shoulder implies he does.

  4. Let those who pay for private secondary education also pay for private university education

    Dude, the analysis of taxes paid vs income percentile shows that they already do.

  5. Philip Scott Thomas

    Let those who pay for private secondary education also pay for private university education.

    OK, but we’ll need rather more than the five private-sector universities we have now.

  6. Let those who pay for private secondary education also pay for private university education.

    Let those who pay twice for secondary education also pay twice for university education.

  7. OK, but we’ll need rather more than the five private-sector universities we have now.

    Oh, I don’t think our little chip merchant will settle for that – the ‘private’ part will be strictly the payment side – the supply side will still be the current universities.

  8. “…restricted entry to those students who have passed through the state education system”

    That reads as though he wants to stop state educated students going to uni.

  9. Apart from the obvious fees/loans scam, are Universities heavily subsidies.My son is doing a Computing course, which is something like about 20-25 hours a week.

    About 2/3 of a full time lecturer.

    For this he is paying £9,000 p.a. There are about a dozen on his course, so they are cumulatively paying £108,000.

  10. If this writer is from the same Tring I’ve been to, I’m surprised he’s heard of universities, much less has opinions on how they should be funded.

  11. Paul,

    > For this he is paying £9,000 p.a. There are about a dozen on his course, so they are cumulatively paying £108,000.

    Sounds like one of the smaller courses. My lectures were mostly 80+ students. Postgrads taught many of the smaller classes. In theory there’s scope for big profits.

    In practice the money gets frittered away like in the NHS. Rooms are left unused for months at a time; technical equipment for practical courses is nowhere near fully utilised. Add in a few too many admin staff and fat pensions all round, and it’s easy to blow through £9,250 per student.

  12. Bloke in Costa Rica

    I didn’t go to public school to listen to the opinions of chippy little oiks from Tring, and I’m not about to start.

  13. The Meissen Bison said:
    “What’s the LSE doing in that list anyway?”

    Think it’s where Tim went, so he’s bound to put it in with the big boys.

  14. Oxbridge colleges are *heavily* subsidised – by alumni not whingers from Tring. Much (most in the case of my old college and most others) of the donations are to enable the best and brighest students to benefit irrespective of their wealth or lack of it.
    So, is Mr Stow wishing to exclude all those of us who won scholarships to Public Schools (and I immediately think of one guy a year older than I whose mother was living on a War Widow’s Pension who went to Cambridge with a State Scholarship) Because he does not understand how Oxbrisge works? Or, given that he lives in Tring, is he the father of some not-that-bright children at fee-paying school and wants to exclude everyone from state schools to give his brats a chance of getting in?

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