Again, the misuse of “despite”

Despite a national hunting ban, the attitude to bears has become increasingly hostile, with some remote villagers taking matters into their own hands

As is so often true it should be “because.”

Then, last October, the Romanian government made a surprise decision to ban the hunting of bears and other large carnivores altogether. The environmental minister, Cristiana Pașca Palmer, a newly appointed, avowedly progressive politician largely at odds with her political surroundings, claimed that under European law “hunting for money was already illegal, but it was given a green light anyway.” The idea that hunting was acting to protect citizens from bears was, she claimed, just a cover for the hunting industry and based on nothing but pseudoscience. Conservationists across the world threw their hands together in applause.

Sure, nature is nice to have around but apex predators are indeed apex predators. And when there are two around, humans and bears, that second needs controlling in some manner. Or, obviously, the humans and their activities will be predated.

25 thoughts on “Again, the misuse of “despite””

  1. As I said over there yesterday (and it’s not been moderated!):

    “Then, last October, the Romanian government made a surprise decision to ban the hunting of bears and other large carnivores altogether. The environmental minister, Cristiana Pașca Palmer, a newly appointed, avowedly progressive politician largely at odds with her political surroundings, claimed that under European law “hunting for money was already illegal, but it was given a green light anyway.””

    Progressive = doesn’t live in areas where bears are likely to attack her?

    “The idea that hunting was acting to protect citizens from bears was, she claimed, just a cover for the hunting industry and based on nothing but pseudoscience.”

    Because she doesn’t have to live with the threat of attack?

    “Conservationists across the world threw their hands together in applause.”

    Who also don’t have to live with the threat of attack?

    I see a pattern emerging.

  2. The Unused Testicle

    Well said.

    I think progressive also = “likes”.

    Progressive people improve peoples’ lives by banning things they don’t like. Ms Palmer, as Julia says, doesn’t like other people killing bears. So she bans it. It doesn’t affect her.

    In the same way that Hillary wants to ban guns, except the ones that her bodyguards carry. It mustn’t affect her.

    Mind you, youngsters think the silly old duffer and his henchman are progressive. The old cretins with their eyes firmly fixed on a time 40 years ago.

    So perhaps progressive just = someone the media like.

  3. The “progressive” bitch needs to be dumped in the woods. In a timely manner such that her arrival will disturb and annoy a bear also dumping in the very same wood.

    Then its all down to running speed.

  4. I’ve long advocated the use of police bears instead of police dogs.

    And to those who say they would terrify small children, I say not if we put a small comical police helmet on the bear’s head.

  5. I heard a expert on grizzly bears say that the thing to do if one charges you is simply stand your ground. 99% of the time the bear is confused by the lack of flight and calls off the charge. The expert wasn’t asked what happens if you’re unlucky enough to get a “1% of the time” bear.

  6. @AndrewC: yes, if charged by a black bear, stand and fight. If charged by a grizzly, that’s the wrong thing to do.

    Curl up & protect your head and vitals as best you can, and hope it loses interest. If it wants to eat you, it will. That’s the 1% bear, and if you’re unarmed, you’re dead.

  7. If anyone’s not seen the documentary ‘Grizzly Man’ about Timothy Treadwell, it’s well worth it. He was the conservationist who ‘lived with bears’ believing he had reached some sort of understanding with them. The inevitable happens.

    The documentary should have been called:

    “Fucking stupid idiot who ignored all the warnings and ended up as bear poop which would have just served him right and been OK except that he took an ex-girlfriend with him on his last trip Man”

  8. Thank goodness we have councils here in the UK who will protect us from certain incredibly dangerous big cats, such as escaped lynx, by shooting them dead because they have sharp teeth and claws.

  9. If anyone’s not seen the documentary ‘Grizzly Man’

    It would have been a lot better known had the director not bottled the decision to let the audience hear the soundtrack of Treadwell and his missus being eaten.

  10. Shades of the apocryphal instruction to tourists in “bear country”…

    Expert – “If a bear approaches you, reach behind you, pick up some shit and hurl it into the bear’s eyes.”

    Tourist – “What if there isn’t any shit to pick up?”.

    Expert – “There will be!”.

  11. ‘Conservationists across the world threw their hands together in applause.’

    Environmentalist whackos threw up their hands. Conservationists grimaced. The whackos feel good about themselves; bears will become extinct, as they now have no value and are just vermin.

    Managed hunting is the best conservationist tool ever invented. Where it is banned, animals die.

  12. Out here in countryside western Canada the locals shoot troublesome bears.

    A bear simply wandering about is watched but not harmed. We call each other to advise there’s a bear in the area. If it gets too close to people or as in the most recent incident, climbs into and destroys fruit trees, it gets shot.

    The carcass is heaved onto a pickup truck and dumped in the woods.

    I called the game wardens once in a bad bear year and was told that the bear sleeping in the shade of my cabin was my problem, even though told the bear was destructive. They would come in 3 to 5 days, because it was not “aggressive”, in the meantime I was trapped in my cabin.

    Natural justice ensued.

  13. Fred

    Please can you settle an argument. Did the bear sleeping outside your place take its shits in the woods?

  14. For protection against bears, sew small bells into your clothes, carry pepper spray, and keep a watchful eye out for bear shit, which can be recognised because it contains small bells and smells of pepper.

  15. An ex-worker at my wife’s place used to get mountain bears in her garden. They come at dawn to pick vegetables. As Tim N says, when bears are about (dawn in the vegetable patch) stay away.

    That doesn’t stop the harridans going out at bear time, but there are plenty of them (harridans) to spare.

  16. Bloke in Costa Rica

    Chris: also, if you are thinking of taking a pistol with you for protection against bears, make sure to file the front sight down. That way it will hurt less when the bear takes it off you and shoves it up your arse.

    Actually, anything less than Win .308 is a bad idea. .300 Win Mag or .300 RUM is a better bet. I’ve heard of multiple .223 rounds ricocheting off a bear’s skull.

  17. A couple of friends of mine (also a couple who are friends of mine)’s new (coughs) country estate has developed a significant black bear problem.

    Being 2nd Amendment stalwarts, they are playing with not just their legal concealed carry and all their hunting gear but some odd “legally this is a pistol” .300 Blackout semi-auto stuff.

    Easy enough to shoot that Mrs S-E had no problem with it.

    The new bolt was a bastard though – corroded rapidly. .

  18. @Tim W
    “Sure, nature is nice to have around but apex predators are indeed apex predators. And when there are two around, humans and bears, that second needs controlling in some manner.”

    Which is why Henry V (iirc) tasked Sir Somebody with ridding GB of wolves, which was done very quickly. Led to (the 1st?) agricultural revolution: Sheep & wool trade.

  19. Living close enough to have bears occasionally wander through the neighbourhood myself I’ve always found the approach in western Canada to be reasonably pragmatic as you’ve described, though around Vancouver there are the environmentalists complaining about the bears that are killed and the policy should be changed etc.
    As for cougars (the mountain lion type) there’s no messing around when they wander into a residential area

  20. mountain near me where I hike/walk a lot was planned to have a bear refuge but the plans were halted when an environmental study found it wasn’t an adequate environment to support them. Good jobs bears aren’t good readers as the ones there don’t seem to mind the conditions and know they are living in relative poverty, bear/forest wise that is

  21. Here in California, there is a ban on hunting mountain lions. Every so often one picks off a jogger. We call that thinning the herd…

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