But, but, this is the argument for the Curajus State

Maybe there are reasons why someone, somewhere can think Theresa May is doing well. I am quite sure she does not share that opinion. But for 34% of the country to think that suggests a staggering collective inability to appraise reality. Or massive ignorance. And I am not being rude: I am expressing concern and I am suggesting there are questions to ask.

Questions like, who informs this opinion?

And how can it be so wrong?

And how can it be corrected?

Democracy requires an informed electorate. It’s not clear we have one and that is worrying.

That the electorate are indeed idiots is the very justification or that Courageous State where the Senior Lecturer gets to decide everything for us.

30 thoughts on “But, but, this is the argument for the Curajus State”

  1. Maybe it’s just me, but in my experience everyone – EVERYONE – who has ever felt able and entitled to call the electorate ignorant, stupid or out of touch with reality has always, ALWAYS, been a complete arsehole.

  2. Surely no one thinks she is good, just that Corbyn is worse. Like choosing between a headache and a bullet to the head. No one wants a headache but when the only alternative is being shot – a headache looks ok.
    (Although I do look forward to Corbyn curing obesity for everyone who is not a senior Labour politician).

  3. For the Left, everyone that agrees with them is wise and just and selfless and votes for those reasons. Everyone who disagrees is stupid, evil and selfish and votes for those reasons.

    The Left see only black and white.

  4. If we have an uniformed electorate, presumably the stupid and ignorant voter for Labour too?

    I echo the opinion of the above commentator – anyone who claims the electorate are ignorant and stupid is usually someone of limited intelligence, tremendous ignorance and no shortage of malice and contempt for others.

  5. But May is awful (although she brushed up nicely in the early days of her premiership, before she started looking like a frightened old housewife).

    The upside is that just maybe she’ll turn out to be the Tory nemesis I’ve long hoped -for.

  6. Questions like, who informs this opinion? His name is Edmund the Experienced and he remembers 13 years of Gordon Brown who didn’t fix the roof when the sun was shining, and the twit who left the note saying ‘There’s no money left’.
    And how can it be so wrong? Wrong in who’s opinion? Not Edmund and his chums, and they are the ones that really matter.
    And how can it be corrected? If it ain’t broke…..
    As with Anon, I prefer the headache.

  7. May is a dud. An authoriatarian, dried-out old hag. A bore and a bully. And it seems not a Tory. Her manifesto was a fucking disgrace. I’d 1,000 times prefer to have Goe in charge.

    But…I voted Leave. I want and demand a PM who is determinedly and stubbornly pushing us that way. May triggered A50. She got the House to vote. She seems to beleive in the possibility of No Deal and that we should use that or at least gear up for it. Good.

    So although I think she utterly sucks I would, if forced, put myself in that 34% deplorable group. I’m not ignorant. I have an Honours Degree and two professional qualifications. His nibbs can fuck off. Basically he thinks I’m a knob because I don’t share his opinion. The feeling is mutual.

  8. “Questions like, who informs this opinion?
    And how can it be so wrong?
    And how can it be corrected?”

    Sound’s like Ritchie is itching to get the rubber truncheon out.

  9. Also: ITT- Ritchie confirms everyone else’s suspicion that he cannot cope with other people having different opinions.

  10. Rob

    ‘I echo the opinion of the above commentator – anyone who claims the electorate are ignorant and stupid is usually someone of limited intelligence, tremendous ignorance and no shortage of malice and contempt for others.’

    A very apt description of Richard Murphy

  11. John Sq

    “Sound’s like Ritchie is itching to get the rubber truncheon out.”

    Post-split from wife number 2, it’s probable he does this already regularly along with the tub of KY to enable a smooth entry up his own Gary.

  12. It’s just a less eloquent rehash of the old Churchill line “The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.”

    For most of my political life the choice has been between the lesser of two evils, and ti remains so today. That said the public can be roused, and the left are experts at doing this, with the active participation of the BBC. The Right need to get equally smart about doing this. The Donald has pulled off this trick in the States, so it can be done.

  13. I must confess for me it’s the last question that’s the most concerning:

    ‘how can it be corrected?’

    That implies that plurality of opinion is not possible. There is a right way to think and a wrong way. If you think ‘wrong’ your thought needs to be corrected. Sadly the prior trolls on this thread seem to be quiet save DBCReed but can anyone tell me that this isn’t a near identical mindset to the kind of one prevalent in North Korea?

    Murphy is a man as close to pure evil as you’re likely to find in the legal sections of internet. I hope in all sincerity that growing evidence of his unhinged nature might indicate a more debilitating condition is imminent..

  14. I have an Honours Degree and two professional qualifications.

    Even so, so what (and I don’t mean to be rude)?

    My guess is that you’re employed, and therefore don’t have nearly enough time to become sufficiently “informed” in all relevant areas. You’ll probably be prone to at least some biases, even if you do have above average mental equipment.

    Meanwhile, the last election result was the ignorant masses getting it right yet again, I would say. I’m sure Corbyn is a genuine danger, however a big win for May would have been thoroughly undeserved.

  15. Democracy requires an informed electorate. It’s not clear we have one and that is worrying.

    Err, no. Democracy requires an electorate. That’s all.

    Cvnt.

  16. @Bravefart

    He’s had 2 wives? Jesus.

    I don’t know whose intelligence that speaks most to: that he’d make the same mistake twice, or that two women were daft enough to marry him.

  17. John² – Yes, two, and he has yet to realise that his personality – allow me a bit of leeway with the choice of word – is more suited to hiring companionship than marriage.

  18. Whenever a person suggests another person needs their thoughts to be corrected, you have to shoot that first person.

    Before they shoot you

  19. To be fair, a lot of the electorate are ignorant. Not stupid, just not interested enough in politics to be informed. Look at how many people voted for Labour in the last GE thinking that Labour was still pro-Remain.

    Not that I think there’s any way of fixing this. Best thing I’ve come up with (which horrified a Labour activist I told, so maybe on to something) is to remove party affiliation from the ballot papers. Then you’d a least need to know the name of the candidate for your preferred party.

  20. The whole point of Brexit is that we, through our elected representatives in Parliament, get to decide things for ourself. So, as long as we get Brexit, we can kick out these idiots at any point in the future and make different decisions. That’s the sole reason I’m putting up with these morons, just to get to Brexit.
    Once we get Brexit, *we* can chose if we allow EU foreigners in, *we* can chose if we get rid of import tariffs. Ramainers have shown themselves fundamentally incapable of comprehending that no longer being forced to adopt EU polices means that we could very well of our own free will chose to continue to adopt those EU policies.

    Wah Wah, if we leave the EU we will abolish safety laws! Only if ***WE****** are so incomprehensively culpably moronically stupid enough to use that freeedon of choice to do so. Clearly, it is fundamental to Remainers’ beliefs that the UK population *IS* so stupid.

  21. “If we have an uniformed electorate, presumably the stupid and ignorant voter for Labour too?”

    Keep up at the back!

    When voters vote for Brexit, or the Tories, they are stupid and ignorant. When the same voters vote for Remain or Comrade Corbyn, they are being wise and well informed.

    Its really very simple…….

  22. Murphy needs his fat neck stretching. That’ll remove some of his arrogance and end the ego-trip that is his life as it deserves to be ended.

    Given the only choice between Corbog and McNasty and the Fish-Faced Cow the Cow is the slightly lesser of two weevils. But lets hope it doesn’t come to that and BluLab have the brains to ditch the bitch for Breathe-Smogg.

    FFC or Corbog???

    Never was the choice of shit or shite more stark.

  23. Bloke in North Dorset

    aaa,

    “He needs to google the Principle of Charity as a matter of urgency. Jesus wept.”

    He should look up rational ignorance as well while he’s at it.

  24. ” Clearly, it is fundamental to Remainers’ beliefs that the UK population *IS* so stupid.”

    That is one of the fundamental underpinning ideas of the EU: that the electorates cannot really be trusted to do the right thing, so the wool needs pulling over their eyes whilst it is done for them in Brussels. That’s why we need to leave.

    Separately, whilst it is true that one of the underpinning ideas of the curajus state is that the electorate is stupid, it also requires that the politicos are not. He is actually arguing against BOTH of these fundamental assumptions. 🙂

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