Cut or uncut

The newly appointed editor of Gay Times has been suspended after it emerged he tweeted a series of antisemitic and misogynistic comments as well as attacking gay people, homeless people and disabled children.

Josh Rivers, who took the position in October, is the first BME editor of a gay men’s magazine, and took on the role with a mandate to promote inclusivity and diversity.

However, he published a series of incendiary comments on his Twitter account between 2010 and 2015. The tweets, which have since been deleted, show Rivers describing Jews as “gross”, and sending numerous messages directing hatred towards lesbians, overweight people, and Asians and Chinese.

It would appear our lad has strong views on the subject.

What it really does though is expose the fragility of the strategy of sweeping all the non boringly hetero whites into the one coalition. No, not because being oppressed by The Man might not work as a strategy, rather because prejudice seems to be equally distributed. I’ve, for example, seen absolutely no evidence (not that I’ve gone looking for it) to suggest that gays are any more or less racist than the rest of society. We might well find they’re more misogynist, don’t know. Equally, there’s nothing to tell us that racists or non- have similar views on abortion, the gender pay gap or anything else.

There are so many axes along which attitudes, from preferences to prejudices, can be measured that there’s simply no assurance at all that they’ll align. Which is a bit of a problem for a coalition really.

29 thoughts on “Cut or uncut”

  1. Solid Steve 2: Squirrels of The Patriots

    “Josh Rivers’ past tweets do not align with the values of Gay Times, or any of our employees, in any capacity,” the magazine said.

    This seems rather judgemental for a magazine about bumsex.

  2. It’s hardly surprising that a fag hates lezzers. They are polar opposites after all.

    The difference is that queers are fundamentally broken- presumably by a virus or other pathogen as there is no way a ‘gay gene’ would not be gradually be eliminated by natural selection- wheras lesbians just need a little correction. The Third Reich didn’t even bother to imprison them.

  3. Solid Steve 2: Squirrels of The Patriots

    Paul – everyone hates lezzers though. The gays have given us Cole Porter, Oscar Wilde, Pyotr Tchaikovsky and the entire country of Greece.

    Lesbians have given us Sandi Toksvig.

  4. The Labour party, amusingly, has this problem too, believing that a non-white person who supports a different party is a disgusting aberration.

    SS2:SotP – can we give them her back?

  5. DS Jimmy Beck: Shall I tell you why I can’t stand lesbians?
    Fitz: Please.
    DS Jimmy Beck: Queers are okay. As long as I don’t turn my back on them, they’re okay. Two queers doing it, that’s two women gone spare. But two lesbians doing it, that’s two men gone short.
    Fitz: You can tell he reads the Guardian, can’t you?

    Cracker (Jimmy McGovern’s police series starring Robbie Coltrane)

  6. When all you are doing promoting an agenda, you’ll eventually come to the point where every person you can find will have said something or other that contradicts that agenda.

  7. Chris Miller

    I can understand the BBC over representing unfunny lesbian comediennes on the basis of its PC agenda towards LGBTTQ etc persons.

    However, this does not explain the ubiquity on the BBC of the unfunniest comedian of all, Marcus Brigstocke.

  8. However, this does not explain the ubiquity on the BBC of the unfunniest comedian of all, Marcus Brigstocke.

    Unfunnier than Mark Thomas? Tough call. We haven’t invented technology sensitive enough to measure their humour and make a judgement.

  9. Well of course gays are misogynist: when I worked with a large group of them they didn’t bother to hide it, routinely referring to women as “fish”.

    For further validation, look at the antics of the fashion business. QED.

  10. The only thing that gays have in common is that they want to shag blokes. You might as well expect people who like toast to have ‘shared values’.

    of course gays are misogynist

    As I tell women when they get all fag-haggy: “They’re not your friends, they don’t even want to fuck you.”

  11. Had a gay friend complaining about all the trans stuff, claiming they were just riding on the coattails of the gay rights movements who done all the real work and suffering and that they were just getting an easy ride to the point that gay issues were being overlooked, particularly the school gender policies etc. It was quite a rant

  12. @BniC

    “Had a gay friend complaining about all the trans stuff, claiming they were just riding on the coattails of the gay rights movements who done all the real work and suffering”

    It’s a fair point- but I do kind of feel that kind of view is a bit harsh.

    My parents were (presumably) involved in some struggle to overcome prejudice. Should they revile me for not having to do the same?

    Or should they go ‘never forget how hard we had to work so you didn’t have to suffer’?

  13. Bloke in Costa Rica

    The only black person I ever met growing up in the almost completely monochrome Isle of Wight of the 1970s was Wally Edwards the bus driver (who was universally loved and became a JP). Then when I went away to school I met a bunch of healthily-tanned kids whose parents were all about seventy times richer than mine. It was not an environment terribly well-geared towards being a bigot.

  14. @Solid Steve 2: Squirrels of The Patriots, November 16, 2017 at 9:51 am

    Lesbians have given us Sandi Toksvig.

    …plus the Angela Eagle & Jo Brand Hags – revolting creatures.

  15. @Paul Rain

    “there is no way a ‘gay gene’ would not be gradually be eliminated by natural selection”

    That’s why the gayists want to be normalised as parents (adopting now – eventually be impregnated with embryos) – they want to try to keep the gay gene going.

  16. Rob

    Don’t forget Jeremy Hardy. Or that colossal cunt Graham Linehan.

    I’ve half considered writing a sitcom featuring Mark Thomas, Mark Steele, Marcus Brigstocke, Jeremy Hardy and one or two others.

    Episode one: they’re all flying off to an international comedy festival.

    Episode two: the plane crashes on a desert island.

    Episode three: Brigstocke is eaten by cannibals.

    Episode four: Steele is eaten by a shark.

    Episode five: Thomas beats Hardy to death with Steele’s leg in a fight over an unripe pineapple.

    Episode six: a plane flies overhead containing Bob Geldof, Billy Bragg, Lily Allen and a few others, en route to an international musical awards ceremony, and sees Thomas. It diverts to rescue him, landing on the island. Unfortunately its undercarriage squashes a deliriously happy Thomas, and the plane runs into a tree and bursts into flames, destroying the radio.

    Episode seven: Bragg kills Lily Allen with Geldof’s head.

    Episode eight: Linehan is found in the bushes, eating food he stole from the others.

    Episode nine: Linehan gets flayed alive, because it’s my fucking sitcom.

  17. Pcar: Jo Brand is married (to a bloke) and has children by him, so if he’s a beard he’s more than usually committed to the role.

  18. @Bloke in Costa Rica, November 16, 2017 at 11:56 pm

    Pcar: Jo Brand is married (to a bloke) and has children by him, so if he’s a beard he’s more than usually committed to the role.

    “Brand married Bernie Bourke, a psychiatric nurse, in 1997”

    Bernie committed to his job of supporting psychiatric patients – BBC pays instead of NHS.

    A search revealed no pics of the “happy couple”.

    Do they live together? Is he an imigrant? Does he have two noses & one eye in between? Is he deaf & blind? One thing’s for sure: he’s a submissive.

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