Hmm

Page, a high-profile gay actor known for the films Juno and Inception, accused Ratner of encouraging another woman to have sex with her, saying: “You should fuck her to make her realize she’s gay” during the making of X-Men: The Last Stand.

The allegation by Page, who said she was not out of the closet when Ratner made the remark, is the latest in a series of sexual misconduct accusations against the film-maker. The X-Men director was recently accused of harassment, assault and rape and has denied the allegations. He filed a libel suit against a former talent agency employee who wrote on Facebook that Ratner had forced himself on her.

Page, who came out as gay in a 2014 speech and has since become a vocal advocate for LGBT rights, published a lengthy Facebook post about Ratner and sexual misconduct in Hollywood on Friday.

She said Ratner had made the comment about her being gay during a cast and crew “meet and greet” before filming began: “I was a young adult who had not yet come out to myself. I knew I was gay, but did not know, so to speak. I felt violated when this happened … This man, who had cast me in the film, started our months of filming at a work event with this horrific, unchallenged plea. He ‘outed’ me with no regard for my well-being, an act we all recognize as homophobic.”

Crude, yes, rude, yes, homophobic? Really not sure about that at all.

For homophobic really just does not mean any act or action that makes a gay person unhappy. Nor is it insulting someone who is gay.

22 thoughts on “Hmm”

  1. The intellectual heavy weight, Anna Paquin has waded in…

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11943032

    “If you can’t think of the glaringly obvious reason I remained silent then perhaps you’ve forgotten that I’ve been in this victim grooming industry since before I hit puberty,” Paquin tweeted.

    Enlightening comment don’t you think? She’s known what this industry was since before puberty, an industry in which she still works…..nearly 30 years later.

    Revealed preference much?

  2. ’For homophobic really just does not mean any act or action that makes a gay person unhappy. Nor is it insulting someone who is gay.’

    That’s old hat. It does now.

  3. “That’s old hat. It does now.”

    Yes, words now mean what the oppressed say they mean.

    For years, feminazis have been trying to expand and dilute the term ‘rape’. Rape used to be non-consensual penetration achieved by the use or threat of serious violence, or the use of drugs to incapacitate or (possibly) the use of trickery. Now a woman can spread her legs, submit to penetration and then decide years later that she was raped.

    Aurelie Wynn “says Westwick came into her room, pushed her face down, ripped off her bathing suit and raped her.
    ‘I was powerless under his weight'”.

    Really? However heavy he was, surely she could have resisted, if only by keeping her legs together. Besides, rear-entry vaginal penetration is difficult to achieve at the best of times, and particularly so if the vagina is dry.

    Consequently, I wonder if she was initially reluctant, then became aroused and yielded, but subsequently decided that she had not consented. No can become Yeeessss!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5065203/Second-actress-accuses-Ed-Westwick-rape.html

  4. I thought “outing” was the traditional punishment administered by the LGBT and their allies to their closeted brethren for failing to embrace the promotion of gay rights vigorously and publicly.

    Prime targets included conservative icons talking about family values while boinking a boy who is not their wife.

  5. ” I knew I was gay, but did not know, so to speak.”

    Whut? Is there any straight man here who was unsure, as a teenager, whether he liked girls?

  6. @Theophrastus

    Very 1984 now. The prior comparisons seem weak and uncertain compared to the new ability to denounce and erase people from public sight. I foresee the next phase being the use of human rights legislation to take the state to court to show the right to earn a living has been violated, and then more fireworks once everyone sees the injustices visited upon innocents as they start to die off in 30 years time.

  7. Her head is so far up her own arse that she can see her tonsils. Would she be moaning if she had scored with the other woman? Presumably she didn’t and she’s still bitching about it.

    Young adult == adult. Perhaps she shouldn’t have been allowed to vote, buy alcohol (depends on US state) etc.

  8. For homophobic really just does not mean any act or action that makes a gay person unhappy. Nor is it insulting someone who is gay.

    It means whatever Humpty Dumpty says it means.

  9. Page, who came out as gay in a 2014 speech and has since become a vocal advocate for LGBT right

    Oh, FFS! Is there anyone famous and gay who *isn’t* a vocal advocate for LGBT rights? Can’t they just get on with being gay and not harangue everyone else? It’s not as if the US government – including the Supreme Court – hasn’t been working overtime on behalf of the LGBT minorities, often against the wishes of the electorate.

    Of course, this wouldn’t be a problem were LGBT rights not usually achieved by severely curtailing the rights and liberties of ordinary people.

  10. Theo, Julia M–that is pure Marxian subjectivism. Anything the victim says is rape is rape and if she says you did it you did it even if you were objectively and demonstrably 10000 miles away at the alleged time. Because –marxscum style–there is no such thing as objective fact.

    Absolute cockrot of course but the enshrinement of that shite as a matter of law is what the scum are after.

    Never heard of this Page woman before but to Hell with her and her whining. This Marxian feminist evil has behind it a deadly serious point and presents a deadly serious danger.

  11. So Much For Subtlety

    “I was a young adult who had not yet come out to myself. I knew I was gay, but did not know, so to speak. I felt violated when this happened … This man, who had cast me in the film, started our months of filming at a work event with this horrific, unchallenged plea. He ‘outed’ me with no regard for my well-being, an act we all recognize as homophobic.”

    So she wasn’t actually a lesbian yet but she must have been putting out a strong lesbian vibe. Because this man picked up on it and commented on it.

    So is it homophobic to be sensitive to Gay people these days is it? If I am a crude red neck who wouldn’t know a Gay person if he dropped on me, I am fine. But if I can recognise a kindred spirit who happens to be a little light in their loafers I must keep this secret to myself forever?

    I am not quite sure how that works. It is a hate crime to say to my colleague that as he is handsome he must be a success with the ladies? Or is it just a functioning Gaydar that is a crime these days?

    I can help thinking that normally Gay people would think he did her a favour. He clarified her sexuality for her and helped her to stop living a lie.

  12. @JGH

    Only if it was AC/DC or sommat. If it was rap or SamSmith/Elton John you’d be the guilty one for oppressing the expression of their culture.

  13. More to the point, why is everyone excoriating Ratner for an off colour remark, while giving him a pass on the gold-plated turkey that was ‘X-Men: The Last Stand’…?

  14. The only Ratner I’ve heard of is the fellow who ruined his jewellery business with a prawn sandwich and I’ve never heard of Ellen Page but obviously my heart goes out to any latent lezzer who gets jostled into being a vocal advocate for alphanumeric rights.

    Consequently I did a little googlish research and I am happy to report that Ellen Page’s greatest regret (and she appears to have quite a few) does not concern Mr Ratner but her decision to make a film with Woody Allen. I once went to the cinema to see an introspective, dull film called Annie Hall which I regret but have never made a big song and dance about.

  15. @TMB

    Yeah- she says:

    ““I did a Woody Allen movie and it is the biggest regret of my career,” Page, 30, wrote, referencing the 2012 film To Rome With Love.”

    I saw that film. It wasn’t great, but it was far from Allen’s worst. I don’t see what she’s so het up about. I mean, If she’d appeared in Alien Covenant, I could understand it.

  16. Now Rebel Wilson is claiming she was sexually harassed.

    I doubt that was the case.

    Not even John ‘I ate Curry for years’ Major would.

  17. @ John²

    I’d never heard of Rebel Wilson and, goodness, what a Rubenesque figure of woman. One doesn’t want to be unchivalrous (though I think you are perilously close) but one wouldn’t want her bobbing about in the busy shipping lanes of the Channel.

    Having taken in her image, it was intriguing to guess how her alleged molester was going to have approached this corporeal feast so what a disappointment to learn that his lasciviousness was limited to inviting her to put her finger in his bottom while his chums were listening in.

  18. So Much For Subtlety

    John Square – “she says: ““I did a Woody Allen movie and it is the biggest regret of my career,””

    She has not had much of a career then. I think Allen ought to be in prison but I have done more regrettable things this week.

    jgh – “They’re eating their own, they’re going after George Takei now. Does that mean all episodes of Star Trek are to be wiped?”

    Takei is Gay. The chances he has not done something that under the present rules is out of bounds is tiny. After all, they do need to recruit.

    John Square – “Now Rebel Wilson is claiming she was sexually harassed. I doubt that was the case.”

    What is interesting is that she is claiming it. So some guy suggested putting a finger up his (or was it her?) butt? Not exactly gentlemanly behaviour. Yet Rebel Wilson has made a career out of doing the cheerful sex-positive empowered feminist version of the Fat Chick that does Anal on the first date. Where could a man have got the idea that Rebel Wilson might be charmed by such an approach?

    Just in passing her film Pitch Perfect 2 begins with Ms Wilson’s character flashing the President, and hence showing the world, her genitalia.

  19. Stonewall outs homos all the time. I’m sure that they could make a case for taking the lot to court if they get anywhere with this one.

    They eat their own. Go to laugh.

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