Interesting

Former US president George H W Bush voted for Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election and called Donald Trump a “blowhard” who was driven by “a certain ego.”

His son George W. Bush left his ballot blank and said about Trump: “This guy doesn’t know what it means to be president.”

A certain wisdom there, no? Myself I was always “Not Hillary” rather than pro-Trump.

23 thoughts on “Interesting”

  1. The Bush dross are both among the scummiest cunts on the planet and both of them–Jr esp–deserve their necks stretching many times over.

    Piss on their insolent, wreckers opinions about Trump.

    Trump is having to struggle with the US deep state –which is saying an accumulation of the creatures who are amongst worst sewage, offal and vermin this sad, benighted planet has to show.

    Trump is vastly shrewder than any of his detractors–including you Tim, nothing personal–but he is obliged to wade thro’ an ocean of already existing shite. His weakness is that he is just a tad too flexible and seems willing to be too influenced by the scum around him. His moral centre–tho’ still sweet-smelling indeed compared to the stench from Hell that is the Bush/Clinton axis– is just not strong enough.

    The likelihood is that the West cannot now be “reformed” what with its scum leadership and cultural marxist poison everywhere.

    The West will have to collapse and we can only work and pray that the forces of good can win the subsequent wars and civil wars.

  2. Both Bushes came right out of the political establishment and managed to achieve nothing positive. Dubya managed to fuck up the Middle East to our everlasting detriment as well.

    Early days for Trump, but he is faced with such opposition it will be a miracle if he gets to do anything concrete.

  3. Dubya allowed Saudi Arabia to attack and kill nearly three thousand, and get away with it, while bringing in more peaceable terrorists to attack America.

    I’m not sure whether it’s more lamentable that Trump has not yet pulled out of Iraq and Afghanistan, or that he hasn’t glassed Riyadh yet.

  4. What’s interesting is that to get taken seriously again, the Republicans neeed to distance themselves from the Bush era and family, and the Democrats need to jettison the Clintons. Neither family is wanted or needed to move forward, no wonder they’re pally with one another.

  5. So Much For Subtlety

    A lack of ego is certainly not a failing I associate with W.

    Both Bushes have been pretty good value. Senior in particular. But they represent a certain class – Anglophile gentry – and a certain time. I am not sure their time is now. They have been p!ss poor at fighting the culture war. They are too apologetic and not tough enough.

    So they are not wrong about Trump. But as Mao said, Revolution is not a tea party and they are tea party sort of people. Lower case tea party, not upper case Tea Party, naturally.

  6. Philip Scott Thomas

    When Dubya says, “This guy doesn’t know what it means to be president” he means Trump doesn’t know what it means to be a President like him and his dad.

    Trump is a symptom, not the disease. The old Buckley-esque, East Coast patrician Republican party is dying, and good riddance to the lot of them. Dubya is the day-before-yesterday’s man.

  7. “Trump is a symptom, not the disease.”

    Yes, I think that’s absolutely right, and something almost no-one in the political and media class are grasping.

    And you can forget all that nonsense like “grab ’em by the pussy” or hiring hookers to piss on a bed. George W Bush bailed out the banks. He took money from hard working people to bail out his pals. Often the sort of people who are independent contractors, who know that they don’t get a bailout. You think those people are going to trust your sort again?

  8. Hmmm. Who else? Did Paul Ryan vote for Hillary? What about McConnell? McCain surely did.

    Washington as protector of liberty has been dead for many years. DC is now a sea of block buildings containing the Directors of Our Lives.

    W was many things as president, but he was NEVER a protector of liberty. Trump has said he wants to cut back government, and he is acting on it. That makes him best president since Ronald Reagan.

  9. Solid Steve 2: Squirrels of The Patriots

    George Dubya Bush might have gotten hundreds of thousands of people killed over fictitious WMD, bankrupting his own country in the process while deliberately allowing millions of low IQ Third World immigrants to swarm in and shit the place up…

    But at least he isn’t RUDE.

  10. Yes, I agree, Trump is a symptom of the disease rather than the disease itself. Unfortunately Trump the arsehole is also the surest sign there is that America is a long way from finding a cure

  11. Solid Steve 2: Squirrels of The Patriots

    Trump is a symptom, not the disease.

    Twas always just a matter of time before the proles noticed that conservatism is an embarrassing joke – at their expense – and couldn’t even conserve the safety of women’s toilets, never mind the nation.

    The Tea Party was the first seismic rumbling of realignment, but the establishment co-opted that one PDQ. They’re doing their best to overturn the result of the 2016 presidential election, but even if they succeed, there’s just no future in conservative cuckery based around endless wars for Israel, unlimited brown immigration and tax cuts for the donor class.

    They’ve come very close to consigning white people – who were over 90% of the population a couple of generations ago – to permanent minority status, and the mythical natural conservatism of Mexicans has less real world evidence going for it than Bigfoot or 57 genders.

    The only two medium term futures available for the GOP are riding the decline down to one-party rule by Democrats as in demographically fucked California, where Republicans often don’t even show up on the ballot, or becoming the defacto white (and white-friendly minorities) party promoting radical populist nationalist ideas such as maybe not selling your posterity for a quarter percent rise in GDP.

    Neither of those options requires elderly pervert Bush Sr, his brain-donor-cum-war-criminal son, or the other idiot and his Aztec tree goblin wife.

    If you want a vision of the future, imagine Donald J. Trump grabbing a Bush’s soft, limp hand and slapping his face with it while chuckling “why are you hitting yourself?”, forever.

  12. Solid Steve,

    “The Tea Party was the first seismic rumbling of realignment, but the establishment co-opted that one PDQ.”

    The difference was that there was no social media. MSM outlets could find the odd placard with a racist Photoshop of Obama and keep repeating it everywhere.

    And you just have to look at the mountain of material people are collecting to discredit these people. How shots of protest marches are staged to make them look bigger etc.

  13. A failed president, father of another failed president and a failed presidential candidate, votes HRC.

    A failed president, son of another failed president and brother to a failed presidential candidate, doesn’t vote.

    News at 11.

    Pappa Bush and his dimwit sons were what made Trump both possible and inevitable… And unsurprisingly, none of them are bright enough to understand why.

  14. If Trump is just a symptom, Hillary is a fvcking epidemic.

    Nope. Republican voters had to reject a litany of establishment Republican candidates – from Jeb Bush to Marco Rubio to Ted Cruz to Rand Paul – to get to Donald Trump.

    The epidemic was the Bush Dynasty, which hardwired the Republican Party to recruit, mentor and promote spineless, appeasing, Big Government apparatchiks like GHW Bush, GW Bush, Bob Dole, John McCain, Mitt Romney, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, Bob Corker and Jeff Flake.

    Trump was not a reaction to Hillary Clinton. He was a reaction to the Republican Party… A Republican Party that ran away from the legacy of Ronald Reagan as fast as humanly possible.

    If the Republican Party had been doing what its supporters had wanted it to do, there would have been no need from Donald Trump.

    I supported him because I want the Republican Party burned to the ground, not because I wanted Hillary to lose. Any old Republican would have done if that was everyone’s aim.

    As to Hillary, that woman would have lost if she’d run unopposed.

  15. Solid Steve 2: Squirrels of The Patriots

    Bloke on M4 – That, and I reckon the way the Tea Party was treated made a lot of folks realise being nice is a liability when the enemy isn’t.

    A lot of older, genteeler, wetter right wingers dislike Trump’s brash both-barrels New York approach, but what did being polite achieve for the Tea Party? Or even poor mild Mitt Romney?

    Dennis – Failed presidents from the POV of doing anything remotely conservative. From the POV of their donors, the Shrub Dynasty was a great success.

    I reckon Perot, and to a lesser electoral extent but a greater intellectual extent Buchanan, were John the Baptist type figures for whatever the new MAGA Right ends up being called by historians.

    We sorely need a realignment in the UK, as the last election showed. The Tories are no longer even credible as a milquetoast slightly-less-progressive party.

  16. DtP: like GHW Bush, GW Bush, Bob Dole, John McCain, Mitt Romney, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, Bob Corker and Jeff Flake.

    Do you really have a politician called Jeff Flake or is he an animated politician from South Park or The Simpsons?

    “Vote Flake get Flake” : so cool, so true!

  17. The Bush’s have disgraced themselves when it comes to Trump. For 8 years, not a peep about the socialist criminals turning the government into a mafia family, but now that a pro-American, no-nonsense man is in charge they feel they have to let us all know that he is now one of their kind. And thank god for that, We’ve had enough of the liberalism and “bipartisanship” of the ruling party.

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