This is not quite what it seems

One in every 200 people in UK are homeless, according to Shelter

Jeebus! 300,000 sleeping rough? Change the entire political system now!

Using official government data and freedom of information returns from local authorities, it estimates that 307,000 people are sleeping rough, or accommodated in temporary housing, bed and breakfast rooms, or hostels – an increase of 13,000 over the past year.

Oh, wait. Maybe 5,000, possibly 10,000 sleeping rough. 290,000 to 295,000 in that part of the welfare system, the safety net, which prevents people from sleeping rough.

So, trick question. Is this evidence of the scum Tories shitting on the poor or evidence that the welfare safety net largely works?

9 thoughts on “This is not quite what it seems”

  1. Shelter have form here. They have a metric for folks who are under housing pressure- I.e too many people in the house.

    They’ve rolled that figure into homelessness stats on multiple occasions before, ignoring the fact that those overoccupying my be perfectly happy to do so.

  2. I’ve always had a deep suspicion of Shelter. Dates back to it’s very early days & some familiarity with the London squatting movement of the times. The way certain people connected to the organisation were able to “luck in” to some remarkably desirable bits of accommodation, Despite not actually, at the time, being homeless. Indeed, by various devices, a number of those desirable squats were able to be retained for considerable periods & became assets of the people concerned. One in particular, netted north of £200k for the lucky squatter, in the 90’s.

  3. And how many of the 290 to 295 thou in paid-for-by-us accommodation should be in this country in the first place?

  4. I heard this on the radio.

    Any charity, government department or individual that screws with definitions deserves to be added to the Ecksian purge. Sewn into a bag with wild animals and thrown in the Thames.

    It’s so fucking irritating. And once they say something like this, all their pals use it as data and then you have to not argue a point, but the data the point is based on.

    Any charity that pulls this gets no more money from me. I don’t care if you’re rescuing kittens from bestial rapists. If you can’t get money without lying, you deserve to go out of business.

  5. “Sewn into a bag with wild animals and thrown in the Thames.”

    And thus the Thames Charity Barrier Project is commenced.
    Certainly answers the calls for new infrastructure developments.

  6. How long before their definition includes private renters who want to buy a property? Far-fetched? Not really.

    SOP for Left-wing pressure groups. Change the definition to widen the net but still present it as the original meaning. Thus “rapes and sexual assaults” end up including people wolf-whistled at by builders in the street.

  7. Prince Philip, in 1980s, correctly said ~”…nobody needs to be sleeping rough, accommodation for all is available and Councils have a duty to provide it…”.

    BBC, Shelter and left were apoplectic

  8. Bloke in Costa Rica

    This is why innumeracy is my bugbear and why I make such a big deal about it. You need to be able to say, “OK, my little town has 30,000 residents, and by this measure there should be 150 homeless people. So where the fuck are they?” But most people have such poor grasp of relative magnitude and the plausible ranges for various numbers that Shelter might as well have said one in two or one in two billion and they’d be none the wiser.

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