Lies work, eh?

Starbucks seems to be struggling with a fairly poor reputation.They tested why and found:

Starbucks is being damaged by tax. Only ten per cent of UK adults agree it ‘pays its fair share of taxes’.

The problem here being that Richie is one of those whom made up out of whole cloth the entire idea that Starbucks wasn’t paying its share of tax.

But then someone did say that the large lies get swallowed, didn’t he?

18 thoughts on “Lies work, eh?”

  1. It’d also help if the party of commerce and industry would bother to do so rather than joining in.

    It’s getting to the point where I’m thinking of standing against my conservative MP. If he won’t stick up for markets and freedom, someone has to.

  2. “The premium coffee market is driven by tax perceptions?”

    Yes, I would say it is. Its target market is people with more money than sense, strongly middle class, slgihtly poseur.

    This kind of clientele will worry about the “optics” of CSR.

  3. But note that the actual truth of any CSR is irrelevant – it’s entirely about the optics and currently Starbucks has allowed the PR to get away from it.

  4. Alternative explanation; Starbucks is the ITV3 of coffee shops, flogging sugary coffee-flavoured milkshakes branded as “coffee” and, over time, people have self-sorted based on the demographic who frequent the outlets.

    See also; McDonalds.

  5. Willy of Ockham;

    “See also; McDonalds”


    WRT to the tax thing, you can get the same complaint for any entity that is a) a franchise operation and b) capturing discretionary spending, and this seems to hold reasonably true over the past 30 to 40 years, quite probably longer.

    And to echo others; what the fucking fuckity fuck does the Vicar’s Wife’s Daughter think she’s fucking playing at?

    Anon; go for it. Good luck.

  6. Willy of Ockham;

    “See also; McDonalds”

    McDonalds coffee is better and cheaper than Starbucks.

    My personal fave – the cheeseburger happy meal.

    One cheeseburger, One Small fries, one latte – for the princely sum of £3.

  7. Starbucks itself is full of leftist bullshit. Metaphorically rather than literally so I hope.

    Remember their ” anti-racist messages in coffee foam” fiasco of a while back?

    It may be their leaders were just trying to kiss left-arse to “brew” up favour but the left shows again that it is quite willing to throw its clients and would-be pals under the bus in service of socialist evil.

  8. Well, every Starbucks I see has a queue of at least six people waiting, but this could be because of their system of having one person take the order, make the coffee and serve it. Glacial.

  9. Demonstrating the menace that was always implicit in the Fair Tax Mark.

    “Nice coffee shop you got here. Don’t you think your tax reputation could use a bit of, uh, protection? It would be a shame if it got damaged, wouldn’t it?” *knocks cup onto floor*

  10. RichardT – agreed.

    Would be interesting to know just how much destruction of value (ie theft) is due to the unsubstantiated allegations, manipulations of facts and outright lies of cvnts like Murphy.

    I wonder if a public spirited tax QC might like to take on a class action pro bono or crowdfunded against those responsible to compensate those affected – probably all of us with pension investments?

  11. Whether or not they have a bad reputation, there doesn’t seem to be any shortage of people wanting to buy their products.

    They are even opening in Italy soon. I don’t know what you’re supposed to get if you order a “latte”.

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