Quite remarkableFebruary 4, 2018 Tim WorstallEconomics24 CommentsAn entire column about demand management for water. Not a single mention of price. previousIt’s astonishing that this bloke is employed to write about economicsnextWhere did Willy get this idea from? 24 thoughts on “Quite remarkable” Bloke in North Dorset February 4, 2018 at 9:14 am But water’s free, or that was the argument against privatisation. Funnily enough when I asked I didn’t get many volunteers to get out of bed at 3am to fix a mains leak, work clearing sewers or in pipe factories for some reason those people want paying. Hallowed Be February 4, 2018 at 9:47 am “They have serious environmental impact and can increase water demand, perpetuating problems for future generations.” Well I don’t know how to build desalination plants but I do know how to fix a leaky pipe and criminalise watering your garden. Better for the kiddies that we don’t supply them with more water. Oblong February 4, 2018 at 9:50 am ‘Ultimately, we have to change our ways’ Well that’s a one way ticket to an unsustainable solution… I figured it would be one of those columns. Andrew K February 4, 2018 at 9:55 am The author is one Anne van Loon. If only other Observer and Graun journalists were as honest. mike fowle February 4, 2018 at 10:00 am Can’t have engineers solving engineering problems. They’re obviously a matter for environmental Loons. Rob February 4, 2018 at 10:34 am You never quite get to hear what the solution is. I suspect it is because it is so lunatic even Guardian readers might blanche at it. Witchie February 4, 2018 at 10:47 am Yep, put a brick in your cistern so that it flushes less, and after three flushes you are still waiting for the last recalcitrant section of turd to disappear. Great, that saved a lot of water. Perhaps I’ll wander up to the Common, shit in a small plastic bag and hang it from a tree like the dog owners do with their pets’ poo. Rickie February 4, 2018 at 10:52 am It always amazes me on that “wanted down under” programme with her shit don’t stink Nicki Chapman that no-one considers water problems/droughts and unbearable heat but instead its all about more spending more time with the kids. Justin February 4, 2018 at 12:21 pm @Witchie Plod will be after you for that. Operation Pootree. WindyPants February 4, 2018 at 1:09 pm I read this too. Amazingly, it also fails to inform the reader that the population of Cape Town has doubled since the 1980’s without any additional water capacity being added. So what has changed to the governance of South Africa since then that could explain how we ended up with this clusterfuck? Andrew M February 4, 2018 at 1:34 pm WindyPants, Try reading the article: “the city has grown (by almost 80% since 1995)” The ANC has been in power since 1994. Pure coincidence, I’m sure. Gamecock February 4, 2018 at 1:50 pm ‘climate change projected to result in more frequent extreme droughts’ Not to worry, it’s also projected to increase more frequent extreme floods. Gamecock February 4, 2018 at 1:51 pm ‘In California, where a culture of individualism and private ownership extends to water rights – landowners owning all groundwater below their land – local authorities are limited in the action they can take.’ Outrageous! Individualism and private ownership! That must stop! Gamecock February 4, 2018 at 1:54 pm ‘The prioritisation of short-term economic interest over long-term environmental solutions.’ She is an ecoloon, trying to fit the crisis in SA to HER agenda. Maritime Barbarian February 4, 2018 at 2:09 pm Cape Town has been run by the opposition DA, not the ANC, for 20 years. The rich (whites) are the heaviest users, with gardens and washing machines. Not the blacks on the Cape Flats. Rob February 4, 2018 at 2:50 pm Outrageous! Individualism and private ownership! That must stop! Although there is a massive problem with water use in California. For the landowners it is effectively free, despite being a scarce resource. That’s why California grows a huge amount of almonds despite almonds being a water intensive crop. It’s crazy. Gamecock February 4, 2018 at 3:29 pm Desalinization might be viable in southern California. Southern California will be in big trouble if Mexico ever tries to enforce its riparian rights to the Colorado River. jgh February 4, 2018 at 3:44 pm ‘In California, where a culture of individualism and private ownership extends to water rights – landowners owning all groundwater below their land – local authorities are limited in the action they can take.’ Have they tried, y’know, actually *BUYING* the water off them? Rhoda Klapp February 4, 2018 at 4:16 pm I have never used up any water. I’ve changed it from fresh to used. But I pay for it. Or more accurately I pay for a service which delivers water. It is not free. And I expect to get what I paid for. If the water company want to restrict my supply or tell me I can’t water the garden or wash my car on pain of punishment, I want my money back. And the same for the electricity or the phone or the trains or whatever service is arbitrarily restricted. This is nothing less than the inversion of a supplier/client contractual relationship. It will not do. Vern Cooke February 4, 2018 at 5:47 pm Hmmmm. In Canada’s Globe and Mail paper there was a full-page opinion piece on this same topic by another author (Diana Neille). It makes me wonder if we are seeing the start of a global “opinion shaping” effort related to water use. Time will tell! Pcar February 4, 2018 at 10:50 pm Dr Anne Van Loon is senior lecturer in water science, University of Birmingham Wow, she lives up to her name. A socialist green loon who prefers restricting supply than enabling others to satisfy their desires. Water shortages in London & SE are due to Gov’t/EU greenies forbidding new reservoirs despite increased population. . Water cycle is naturally sustainable: water evaporates from sea, land, lakes, life and forms clouds. Clouds deposit water on land and sea, most flows back to sea; some is stored & consumed by life and excreted as waste which ends up in sea. No water shortage monoi February 4, 2018 at 11:00 pm @ Pcar, Exactly, those cretins always make it sound like water disappears somewhere. Reminds me of the evening standard in the 90s running a daily “water reservoir levels” as climate change meant the south east was about to become the Riviera, with palm trees, and rain would be a thing of the past. Like the snow which should have disappeared from the Alps any minute now. Fvcking tossers. Gamecock February 4, 2018 at 11:50 pm @ Pcar You leave out the opportunity for global government management of your well. john77 February 6, 2018 at 1:00 am @ Pcar There are not many suitable lakes near London that could be expanded into reservoirs and some of the reservoirs supplying London’s thirst are pushing the limits of credibility – I periodically walk past some that are within artificial hills built to contain them; the proposal for Harlow North involved building a reservoir near Aylesbury in Buckinghamshire to meet the added demand for drinking water in Essex. Lots of problems with Green loonies but the shortage of resrvoirs near London is partly down to geography Leave a Reply Cancel replyYour email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *Comment Name * Email * Website Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment.