Ministers have been urged to address the “crisis in children’s mental health” after a Children’s Society report revealed that around one in four 14-year-old girls self-harm.

The charity’s annual Good Childhood Report, which examines the state of children’s well-being in the UK, found that out of the 11,000 children surveyed one in six reported self-harming at 14.

Based on these figures, the Children’s Society estimates that nearly 110,000 children aged 14 may have self-harmed across the UK during the same 12-month period, including 76,000 girls and 33,000 boys.

1 in 6 report, so we’ll say 1 in 4?

Further, my assumption is that self harm has a pretty wide definition here.

18 thoughts on “Eh?”

  1. “around one in four 14-year-old girls self-harm.”

    “of the 11,000 children surveyed one in six reported self-harming at 14.”

    Tim

    I haven’t read the report but I am aware that not all children are girls.

  2. Having attempted to read the report i find that

    The Childrens society has combined survey data using different questions and reporting scales

    Self reporting on a scale of 0-7 or 0-10 and then reporting changes to two decimal places

    Summarising results over a long time (since 1994) there has been a general increase in ‘happiness’ between 1994 and 2015, with the exception of 2009-2016

    Which happens to be the period of the most recent recession and the ‘rise’ in social media

    It is clear that the self harming factoid has been cherry picked from a report that doesn’t really mention it very much and when it does says that it is more likely o be girls and people who are attracted to the same gender – cleanly a triumph for the gender identity warriors

    In conclusion I think that this report by a children’s, lobby group advocates that more money should be spent on the children (and presumably itself too) and that secure family structures work (quelle surprise)

    In other words……

  3. “I haven’t read the report but I am aware that not all children are girls.”
    Well, the two factoids quoted are that 1 in 6 children and 1 in 4 girls have self-harmed.
    A little algebra will find the fraction of boys that have self harmed assuming that there are equal numbers of girls and boys in the population

  4. What exactly is self-harming? Smoking, drinking alcohol, driving dangerously, fighting with lads who are much bigger than you are, gambling, associating with loose women…?

  5. @BernieG: it usually refers to cutting, though I suspect they’ve allowed for the widest possible definition in order to inflate the figures.

  6. 1 in 12 boys, and 1 in 4 girls, would give an average of 1 in 6 across all children.
    What’s bad is that the BBC are giving this publicity, which they do to many things being reported for the first time. We can’t ask if the numbers are higher or lower than say 5 years ago.
    Another mad BBC story today is in the business section : imported cheese from Ireland is in danger of facing a 40%+ tariff, hence food price inflation.

  7. “Another mad BBC story today is in the business section : imported cheese from Ireland is in danger of facing a 40%+ tariff, hence food price inflation.”

    So we’d better quickly impose WTO rules so we’re forced to keep tarrifss less than 5%.

  8. My daughters (one at a very high achieving all girls’ school, one at a very, very high-achieving mixed school, both schools where there’s a lot of pressure on the kids to succeed), all of their friends and the vast majority of their female co-pupils have had no truck with any of this bullshit.

    Not saying it doesn’t happen, obviously it does. There are one or two (maybe three or four) cases, over the last seven or so years that I’m aware of, of girls who have cut themselves and/or been hospitalised with anorexia or similar.

    No boys at all.

    (One girl who was Sophia, now wants to be James. The kids are fine with that and most watchful for any bullying.)

    That said, most of their parents are married and still together (and I think ALL of their close friends’ parents are), they mostly have parents who spend time with them, who take at least a nodding interest in who their friends are, where they go at what time, who check what they are doing online at what hours, who are not afraid to punish misbehaviour appropriately, and so on.

    Among the parents, no druggies, hopeless alcoholics, plastic surgery addicts, Facebookers, McDonalds-scoffing sofa whales, or online melter-downers. Not a single tattoo, which is often a sign.

    It’s almost like there might actually be (at least on the average) some sort of magic formula, which is to behave properly yourself and bring your kids up properly, for in both cases a solid, conservative, old-fashioned definition of ‘properly’.

  9. The BBC says it is one in five. Perhaps they split the difference.

    Either way you know the figure is bogus and has been boosted by including ridiculous things.

  10. @Henry Crun – to paraphrase .Boys and girls?? – sometimes it’s like 1918 in here rather than 2018. It’s children who identify as the female gender or the male gender (or none at all ) you dinosaurs. Heres’ 250 links to obscure papers that definitely prove that you are all nazis and Tim is literally Hitler…………..

    Meanwhile in the real world it appears that in London rather than self harming, the little darlings go out and stab someone.

  11. @ moqifen
    The stabbing is (well 90+%) by boys which partially explains the difference in self-cutting/stabbing between genders.
    Girls are mostly accomplices, not actual stabbers because they are just not phyisically as good at it.

  12. @john 77 “Girls are mostly accomplices, not actual stabbers because they are just not phyisically as good at it.”

    Thats an outrage – obviously the patriarchy is to blame (especially white men) In any progressive society children who identify as female would be getting free lessons on how to stab effectively.

  13. @ moqifen
    I vaguely remember someone advocating self-defence training for girls and this being loudly denounced ny lefties.

  14. A clinical psychologist was on Radio 4 and very quickly stated that the definition of self harm included girls not eating properly to get thin. She didn’t exactly say “this is being rigged”, but the tone suggested it.

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