Quite gorgeous

I entirely agree. And I share his frustration. For years I have been seeking to present balanced argument on tax in the media. It’s hardly radical to say that you expect people to pay the right amount of tax, in the right place, at the right rate and at the right time, after all. Nor is it radical to say that you want the government to do this even-handedly in the interests of fair competition. From whatever political perspective you come that, surely, makes sense.

But like Rupert, I have been put up, time and again, against people I consider extremists. That is people like the so-called Taxpayers’ Alliance and the Institute for Economic Affairs, both of which organisations argue for the end of the structure of society as we know it, the destruction of democracy as we are familiar with it, and the end of those services on which the most vulnerable people in this country rely. They also promote tax havens that would destroy fair competition and undermine markets. And that has been done in the name of supposed balance. But it is not. It creates bias.

I just hate being put up against people who know anything.

I will have to think hard about that one. And the next time I am asked to go on air with the likes of Mark Littlewood from the Institute of Economic Affairs I might have to think seriously about whether to do so, or not.

The BBC is biased. It’s biased because it gives the far right a platform where none can be justified.

I’m not arguing against free speech. Nor is Rupert. What we are saying is that the balance in reasonable debate is not unreasoned extremism. And it’s time the BBC realised that. As yet they do not.

Therefore no one who knows anything should ever be on the BBC.

24 thoughts on “Quite gorgeous”

  1. “If I was Mark Littlewood I would sue the fat fucking libeller for that.”
    About time someone had another legal pop at him. Be amusing to see him downsizing to a r esidentialcaravan park. And with his Irish ancestry he’d get on well with the pikeys

  2. “It’s hardly radical to say that you expect people to pay the right amount of tax, in the right place, at the right rate and at the right time, after all. Nor is it radical to say that you want the government to do this even-handedly in the interests of fair competition. ”

    By all means, let’s do the “right” and “fair” thing. But that’s a slogan – its not an argument, is it?

    My problem with this kind of sophistry is I don’t trust the person saying it intends to mount a real argument that is fair – or, even right.

  3. The BBC is far right? Wow.

    What he’s complaining about is that the BBC usually put up 3 people who spout the BBC view against one they disagree with and the 3 and the BBC host then shout down the lone speaker.

    He’s obviously pissed that the left wing BBC did not mollycoddle him in this way.

  4. Yes, Dennis. As in: “I support free speech, but/except/unless …”. Let me stop you there – you don’t support free speech.,

  5. The blithering spastic believes you can print as much money as you want and that tax doesn’t pay for spending. *He’s* the extremist; by contrast virtually anybody else is the voice of reason on tax.

  6. I would love it if the BBC blacklisted him on the basis he argues above.

    ‘I’’m not arguing against free speech’ That’s why you’ve blocked the second most users of anyone on Twitter?

    ‘Nor is Rupert.’ The Greens are notorious enemies of free speech and have been arguing against giving a pltform to their critics for decades

    ‘What we are saying is that the balance in reasonable debate is not unreasoned extremism.’ Great – so anyone that peddles discredited Hard Left tropes that have been proven utterly wrong by 70 years of history should be barred from the debate. That’s Murphy and most of the Guardian Commentariat off the air then

    ‘And it’s time the BBC realised that. As yet they do not.’ The idea that the BBC is ‘Hard right’ is gaing currency in a lot of circles, partly as a consequence of the Anti-semitism scandal unfolding in Labour. Anyone who thinks the BBC is even vaguely right of centre has their political compass so far off beam they are effectively admitting they are too stupid to participate in a debate.

  7. Define the “right amount of tax”!
    Does it mean “that which maximises economic performance” or “that which maximises happiness” or “that which Murphy dictates”?

  8. “The BBC is biased. It’s biased because it gives the far right a platform where none can be justified.”

    I can translate: “The right isn’t just wrong, it’s evil.”

  9. I don’t like paying tax. I don’t really feel it’s my duty at all. Just a law like many others. However I am willing to concede that those who think it IS their duty may pay a little extra to cover my dereliction.

  10. I’m fairly sure you would find that Mark Littlewood is closer to Gladstone than Mussolini and Hitler. Was Gladstone “far right” too? I expect Murphy would think he was.

  11. In fact I’m certain Murphy would consider Gladstone “far-right” if he was even remotely consistent. Saying that…

  12. “in the interests of fair competition.”

    Oh no Richard. If as you insist on claiming tax incidence falls ENITRELY on capital, then tax avoidance and indeed evasion have no impact on competition at all.

  13. Bloke in North Dorset

    Rob,

    Big assumption that the fat twat has read enough history and politics to have an opinion on Gladstone.

    But opinion on Gladstone would be to call him a neo-liberal because you’ve mentioned him on this new-liberal blog

  14. Van_Patten said:
    “‘I’m not arguing against free speech’ That’s why you’ve blocked the second most users of anyone on Twitter?”

    Has he really? That is an impressive level of fingers in the ears.

  15. With his insistence that taxes don’t pay for services , it rather hobbles his argument. Anyone can understand and recognise “if you don’t pay your tax you aren’t paying for your share of services such as the nhs” (whether you agree with it or not) the slogan – pay your taxes so that the government can control inflation doesn’t really have much of a ring to it – especially when he’s been moaning that inflation is too low(therefore obliterating his whole argument) He’s a poltroon.

  16. moqifen

    He’s adjusted that argument now to “tax the rich – because they are too rich”!

    Honestly, it was on here earlier this week at some stage.

    My presumption was: in order to reconcile his MMT bollocks with “fair share and we need to tax more”?

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