What wondrous joy

Dr Akiria Fukutomi, lead researcher, from Vincent Square Eating Disorder Service, run by Central and North West London Foundation trust, said: “The single-sex system disadvantages males as the majority of the patients are female.

“The fact that both professionals and patients believe eating disorder wards should be open to males, should spur units to accept males if they do not currently do so.

The researcher said the Government guidelines have been amended following the study, to allow mixed sex wards under particular conditions -such as keeping sleeping areas and bathrooms separate.

Bathrooms should be separate in hospital and not at the Department for Education.

Anyone care to justify both?

20 thoughts on “What wondrous joy”

  1. “Anyone care to justify both?”

    No thanks.

    But should male wards where males may occasionally be in a state of déshabillé be open to female nurses?

  2. @TMB: pity about the company’s HQ and that incident with the German terrorists though. Lucky that vest wearing NooYawk cop was on hand, I say!

  3. Time to get rid of ‘eating disorder wards.’ Tell ’em all to go home.

    Tell the big ‘uns, “Don’t eat so damn much.”

    Tell the skinny ones, “Have a sandwich every day.”

  4. It’s wrong to call it a disorder. If outwardly emaciated people identify as fat people we should respect their right to be struggling lard buckets and offer them reduction surgery and other interventions. Studies show that there are brain differences between so-called anorexics and non-so-called anorexics, so this isn’t to be dismissed as mental illness or attention seeking. These are real fat people.

    Stop the oppression. Suggestions to “eat sandwiches”, however well meant, are misguided. If someone self-identifies as fat, say something helpful like “wow, yeah, you could probably do to cut down on the chips a bit”.

  5. “If outwardly emaciated people identify as fat people we should respect their right to be struggling lard buckets and offer them reduction surgery and other interventions.”

    If you want to follow your own analogy (which ignores the difference between dysmorphia and dysphoria), then people who ‘identify as fat’ ought to be offered treatments to make them outwardly fat. Which they do.

  6. Ah, but you conveniently glossed over “their right to be struggling lard buckets”. These are real fat people who want to be thin. And there you are suggesting they are offered treatments in opposition to reality. Bigot.

  7. I don’t know about you, but when I was at school having teenage boys and girls sharing the showers wouldn’t have been a good idea.

  8. Err, how many British schools have fully uni-sex bathrooms? (Not just one or two here and there.)

    I know some nutters have suggested it, but I can’t imagine many schools will want to take that to parents.

  9. “I don’t know about you, but when I was at school having teenage boys and girls sharing the showers wouldn’t have been a good idea.”

    I don’t know about you, but when I was at school having teenage boys sharing the showers wasn’t a good idea.

  10. I know some nutters have suggested it, but I can’t imagine many schools will want to take that to parents.

    Do schools bother taking stuff like this to parents these days? The schools might run the risk of “knuckle-dragging parents”, without the subtle nuance to understand, and who probably fucking voted for Brexit, don’t you know, saying “what the fuck?” and running the loony head teacher out of town.

  11. NiV, as a former nurse I can tell you that the sight of patients’ genitalia (of both sexes) is neither exciting nor lurid. The job in hand is care of the patient no matter what state they are in.

  12. “NiV, as a former nurse I can tell you that the sight of patients’ genitalia (of both sexes) is neither exciting nor lurid.”

    Exactly my point!

  13. Eating disorders are symptoms, not primary complexes. There’s pretty much always some other disorder, usually some form of complex PTSD, that’s the root cause. Treat that and the eating disorder goes away. The whole notion of ‘eating disorder wards’ is the problem. Bathrooms are irrelevant.

  14. “Eating disorders are symptoms, not primary complexes.”

    Oh, come on. In less enlightened times people said the same thing about transgenderism.

  15. ‘If outwardly emaciated people identify as fat people we should respect their right…’

    Is this what Transfat means? Thus Transfat Rights.

  16. Bloke in North Dorset

    A very good friend was going to marry an American woman who is a therapist in LA. The came to stay with us and she wasn’t the stereotypical Californian therapist, quite a sound woman.

    She said the worst people to treat were those with Anorexia. Other patients accepted they had some sort of disorder and knew they needed help and she could work with them. Anorexics wouldn’t accept there was anything wrong and she found it distressing to watch young girls, and in her experience it was always girls, kill themselves.

  17. “I don’t know about you, but when I was at school having teenage boys sharing the showers wasn’t a good idea.”

    I do know about me. And I’m thinking that if you went to one of those schools, that might explain quite a few of the posts you’ve made here. Maybe I should have more sympathy for you. Maybe.

  18. Institutionalizing anorexics who are a clear threat to themselves is rational. I wish they had locked up Karen Carpenter.

    O’Connor v. Donaldson (U.S., 1975) makes it legally sticky to lock someone up for mental illness.

    ‘Men make up an estimated 25 per cent of the 1.25 millon people with an eating disorder within the UK.’

    So you need 1.25 millon (sic) beds?

    ‘But on average, male sufferers will wait nearly three times as long female sufferers to be even referred for treatment.’

    And how long is that? 3 days instead of 1? Being referred is hardly a useful metric. A completely empty statistic.

    The article’s use of numbers seems nothing but a ploy to act sciency. It fails.

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