Tonight in one of the world’s richest countries, more than 300,000 people won’t have a home to call their own. They will sleep instead in temporary accommodation, in homeless hostels, in rooms provided by social services – and in the worst case out on the streets.

295,000 of them will be housed at the expense – and rightly so – of the rest of us. We are a rich country and we do things about this. The other 5,000 or so have issues which aren’t about the lack of housing in the first place.

13 thoughts on “Well, yes”

  1. “Under Housing First, rough sleepers are treated as if they deserve a roof over their head rather than being made to earn it”

    Hmm, does ‘Bruce’ deserve one?

    “This time, he’d drunk so much he fell unconscious in a Staffordshire police station and “swallowed my tongue”. He stopped breathing, the vital signs went, and for a while they thought he was dead: “Paramedics brought me round in A&E.” Lazarus showed neither gratitude nor wisdom. “I was violent, so I got rearrested.” Years later, the memory makes him cackle.”

    That’ll be ‘No’, then.

  2. Clearly this charity worked for Bruce and if it keeps him out of prison and A&E then it’s working for the rest of us too.

    However, some people are just too fucked up to cope with, well, civilisation really and I don’t know what the solution is.

    Amusing the way she skips over the fact that them evil Tories are piloting this scheme.

  3. “…I don’t know what the solution is.”

    Impound them (sans benefits) on waste ground, providing basic sanitary facilities, medical checks and rations, until they are ready to be housed. They can have their freedom back when they want to try living in a civilised manner.

  4. Amusing the way she skips over the fact that them evil Tories are piloting this scheme.

    It’s almost as if the Tories don’t see the “value” in Bruce’s drunken antics and would rather he sobered up, got his shit together and contributed to society rather than being a drain on it.

    Whereas for the denizens of the Left, Bruce is the source of jobs (social workers, housing staff, drugs and alcohol intervention teams, police, hospitals, etc) as well as providing the basis for socio-political commentary against “the Tories” and smug patronage around the local lefty dinner table set.

    “Do pass the quinoa Jeremy and let me tell you about the intervention I had with our local character called Bruce!”

  5. There are homeless who won’t be given a place to stay. They fail risk assessments, they insist on bringing in drugs and alcohol, they insist on getting drunk and high.
    And don’t mind raping or beating up other people.

    Get them a house and they’ll be in rent arrears immediately. Cause damage, have police called out for loud music and fighting. Have major problems.
    But they won’t be on the street.

    What is the cost? Too high?

    Most people who are temporarily homeless can be helped relatively quickly and using minimal additional resources. The ones with serious issues, the ones who do not want help, the ones who prefer to do their own thing – the only way to get them off the street is force them at high cost to others.
    Think of the worst serial killers you have heard of. Think of the rapists, violent people etc. Now stick them in a multi occupancy property with a bunch of otherwise innocent people. And don’t mind about the booze or the drugs.
    What will be the end result?
    Is the price too high?

  6. MC: “Clearly this charity worked for Bruce and if it keeps him out of prison and A&E then it’s working for the rest of us too.”

    If by ‘the rest of us’ you mean ‘society’, well, how, exactly is it working for us?

    How is it working for parents trying to raise children to be hardworking and respectable when drunken dossers get free houses?

    How is it working for the young couple desperately trying to save every penny for a mortgarge when they have to step over the local ‘Bruce’, passed out in a puddle of his own vomit in the doorway of the building society?

  7. Impound them (sans benefits) on waste ground, providing basic sanitary facilities, medical checks and rations, until they are ready to be housed. They can have their freedom back when they want to try living in a civilised manner.

    Presumably we still own St. Kilda don’t we?

  8. “Do pass the quinoa Jeremy and let me tell you about the intervention I had with our local character called Bruce!”

    Very few of the State employees reliant on the likes of Bruce existing for their salaries actually do anything to physically help him, and the ones that do will be lowest paid ones. as well. They have meetings about him, write reports about him, his existence keeps them employed, but they don’t want to have face to face contact with him, he’s a bit violent and he smells you know!

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