Of course it’s a bribe

Theresa May accused of giving knighthood to buy MP’s Brexit silence

A damn cheap one too which is the very point of he honours system itself.

29 thoughts on “Of course it’s a bribe”

  1. Talk isn’t enough to punish the bitch. Nor is taking her pension or even T&S jail time. Only a public execution Tyburn style will do.

  2. And shows how cheap some MP’s can be bought.
    Which makes me wonder… I’ve got this real problem trying to work out what I buy the g/f for Xmas. I’d considered a dog, but…

  3. at this point, who cares about a knighthood? It’s an honour that’s been so devalued, it seeks to be an hour. I mean, does it get you more minge or something?

  4. A Knighthood these days is worth about as much as Father Ted’s Golden Cleric Award.*

    Easy to imagine this Hayes creep on the phone ” Is there are sort of cash prize that goes with that?”

    *A Christmassy Ted. Just to add at this point how much I despise remainiac and pro-tyranny slug Graham Linehan despite Father Ted being quite a funny show.

  5. Given how these “honours” are handed out to civil servants, there must be more traitors than patriots “honoured”.

  6. “John Hayes MP, a junior minister to May when she was the home secretary…”

    This might have been in the offing anyway. There’s nothing about his career that makes a knighthood surprising.

    Hayes is a long standing Brexiteer; a popular MP in the second most Brexit leaning area of the country. I doubt he’ll be bought with a gong.
    At least, not permanently.

  7. Nice to know how well regarded she is.

    We wanted her to negotiate a deal with the EU regarding leaving. She has done so. And gets slammed for it including Mr Ecks apparently calling for her to be killed.

    Do people prefer a no deal option instead of a deal where the two sides have to agree on stuff?

  8. Roue le Jour – quite possibly. Luckily for us there isn’t a requirement that people honoured need to make their allegiance known. Its entirely possible that some will work against any government no matter the party. Like Yes Minister.

    Wasn’t aware that civil servants should avoid getting honours. I’ve met a couple of the civil servants who have been honoured, if they weren’t civil servants they’d have still got the honours.

  9. Do people prefer a no deal option instead of a deal where the two sides have to agree on stuff

    We prefer no deal to one where we need permission from a hostile power to leave it.

  10. Martin–As well as being unable to comprehend English have you lost your marbles altogether?

    The “Agreement” is a piece of treasonous shite. Which reverses almost everything the lying two faced bitch said she would not allow to be included.

    Death–yeah. The noose has always answered treason in this nation–and a lot worse than the noose- and that is tried, executed and publicly shamed as a base traitor to this nation and the cause of freedom in general. Not merely “killed” And for being a stooge of wannabe global elite tyranny.

    That enough for you Martin or do you have any sense to offer?

  11. Bloke no Longer in Austria

    Martin seems to have grasped the wrong end of several sticks.

    We wanted her to negotiate a deal with the EU regarding leaving.

    No we didn’t.

    Do people prefer a no deal option instead of a deal where the two sides have to agree on stuff?

    Yes

  12. Martin – you’ll note the “Withdrawal Agreement” (lol) is absolutely binding on Britain, prevents us from competing with the EU, and stops us leaving without the EU’s permission. And it costs us £40Bn.

    Meanwhile, the “future trading declaration” is meaningless promises of jam tomorrow, worth considerably less than Prime Minister Chamberlain’s famous piece of paper.

    This isn’t a deal, it’s a surrender. Shaving your balls with a cheesegrater would be less humiliating and painful.

  13. @Martin
    Surely, the essence of an agreement is that both sides to the agreement agree to it. Theresa May may have agreed to all sorts of things (On current performance, we should all be grateful that we are not privy to the details of the personal ones). But Theresa May is not party to the agreement ( apart from being 1/65,000,000th of those describe themselves as Brits). The agreement is between the UK & the rest of Europe. And, by the look of things, the majority of UK people do not agree.

  14. And I do think this is the way this should be treated. Any agreement May may come to & sign is between her & her coterie of sheep & the assembled Eurotrash. It is not an agreement that concords with the terms of the Referendum or the manifesto she was elected on. It should have no validity past the demise of her government & should simply be ignored thereafter. If the EU don’t like it, tough. They should choose their negotiating partners more wisely.

  15. Incidentally, whatever happens, the EU negotiators have only themselves to blame. Anyone who’s used to cutting deals knows that it’s necessary to look after the interests of the party you’re dealing with as well as your own. The other party should be getting as much out of it as you are. It should not be a zero sum game.
    You try & skin them & you’re not going to have a deal that holds or they’ll try to make work.

  16. BiS – Yarp but remember: the EU itself has no skin in the game here.

    The member states do, but Barnier and co. don’t. What’s the worst thing that can happen to them? They’re not going to be voted out. They’re not going to lose their cushy jobs, or their pensions, or their taxpayer subsidised piss ups.

    It was amazingly obvious from the early stages that there was no good “deal” to be done, as the EU wasn’t negotiating in good faith and had no incentive to negotiate in good faith. In fact, their institutional incentive runs t’other way: make leaving the EU as difficult at all costs, pour encourager les autres.

    As we’ve recently found out, HM Gov wasn’t negotiating in good faith either.

    The only silver lining is that Theresa May – who’d lose a popularity contest to cancer – called her clown-car-crash election in 2017. I’m not incredibly hopeful that Parliament will do the right thing, but there’s more chance we’ll stumble into something we can live with than if the Tories still had a majority.

  17. BTW, I’m wondering if the apparent urgency behind the summer campaign to nobble Jeremy Corbyn – which ran in conjunction with Project Fear 2.0 – wasn’t actually part of Project Fear 2.0.

    There’s a decent chance Corbyn will instruct his MP’s to vote down this “deal”. Bacon sandwich man or one of the other New Labour dweebs would probably have supported it.

  18. > I’ve met a couple of the civil servants who have been honoured, if they weren’t civil servants they’d have still got the honours.

    I know civil servants who’ve been honoured and they *definitely* wouldn’t have been within a million miles of being honoured if it wasn’t for the fact that they were within the system. Even they would readily admit that.

  19. I’ve met a couple of the civil servants who have been honoured, if they weren’t civil servants they’d have still got the honours.

    To say that with such confidence, I’m guessing that they must have been doing something pretty amazing in lots of their spare time…

  20. I’ve met a couple of the civil servants who have been honoured, if they weren’t civil servants they’d have still got the honours.

    Fake news. Mandarins get gongs for being Mandarins.

  21. Slightly O/T, but No 10 tries to rebut Martin Howe:

    https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/11/the-brexit-deal-rebuttals-to-the-legal-verdict/

    And fails spectacularly, I’m gobsmacked they’ve decided to put it out. The small number of points they have attemtped to rebut, along with the poor quality of rebuttal, in some cases in effect pretty much backing up the original claim, is risible.

    I can’t see that as anything other than a massive own goal.

    It’s interesting also that they thought they simply had to put something out (despite how poor it is). That suggests Martin Howe’s legal opinion was being widely followed within Westminster.

  22. PF,

    It’s this crap that angers me.

    “The political declaration is clear that whatever is agreed in the future partnership must recognise the development of an independent UK trade policy beyond this economic partnership.”

    Which means precisely nothing. There’s no “deal” to that. It doesn’t explicitly state what the EU will do. Anyone writing a contract like that would have lawyers warning them not to do it.

  23. BoM4

    Exactly. Any reference they make in that rebuttal to the Political Declaration is No 10 basically accepting that Howe is right – the PD is simply a bed time story for the children, it has no legal substance, unlike the Withdrawal Agreement.

    A wish list is whatever Humpty Dumpty later decides it to be.

    I hope that Howe (or someone) takes 5 minutes to bury that rebuttal.

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