Allow me to translateJanuary 21, 2019 Tim WorstallPolitics17 CommentsToo soon for new Scottish independence referendum, warn SNP bigwigs We don’t think we’d win it yet. previousSuch an amusementnextInteresting environmental news 17 thoughts on “Allow me to translate” Chris Miller January 21, 2019 at 2:07 pm Last four words superfluous. The Sage January 21, 2019 at 2:28 pm The previous referendum disenfranchised Scots living south of the border, yet gave a say to the English living abroad in Scotland — and those latter votes apparently swung the result against Joxit. Jim January 21, 2019 at 2:41 pm Scottish independence is a busted flush now. Pretty much as the last ballot box was being counted the oil price hit the skids and has never recovered, indeed spending plenty of time in the toilet over the last 4 and bit years. If the oil price had stayed over $100/barrel they could have made a go of it, at the current prices they’d be bust from day 1. It might be fun to watch all the money and talent streaming south from this side of the Tweed, but not much fun for the Scots of course. I would predict a similar request to the one that led to the Union of 1707 would have been soon winging its way south. Or maybe even further south to Brussels – the Scots could swap being part of the UK, for being a very small subsection of the EU with them holding the purse strings far tighter than Westminster ever did…………… PJH January 21, 2019 at 2:50 pm Have they considered giving the English, Irish and Welsh (who would also be affected) a vote this time round? Might even help them win it, especially if they promise to give up non-Scottish™ things that they wanted to keep last time, like Stirling, and Barnett. BraveFart January 21, 2019 at 3:18 pm PJH I think the residents of Stirling might be annoyed at your suggestion that it is not part of Scotland… Mark T January 21, 2019 at 3:47 pm As mentioned elsewhere, the fact that 330,000 Irish citizens living in the UK were eligible to vote in the referendum is astonishing. I don’t know how many did vote, but I can guess which way those that did, did. In the same way, Scots voting for England to stay in the EU (thus paying the Scots in two different ways) is very different from wanting to be in the EU all by their wee selves. Itellyounothing January 21, 2019 at 4:43 pm SNP should back an English referendum on Independence. Scotland would be free in no time….. Oblong January 21, 2019 at 5:30 pm OT: I am very surprised by this news https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6615775/Billionaire-James-Stunts-gold-bullion-firm-facing-BANKRUPTCY-unpaid-rent-19-500.html Pat January 21, 2019 at 7:11 pm If the SNP want Scotland to vote for independence a necessary first step is to show competence at least governing Scotland. rapscallion January 21, 2019 at 7:28 pm If the SNP want to win the Referendum vote, just let the English vote on it. You’d be out in a jiffy. Bloke in Preston January 22, 2019 at 12:47 am rapscallion: It works very well on the English but not as well on the Scottish. Bloke in Preston January 22, 2019 at 2:09 am See, I don’t think it means that. I think what the SNP mean is: “We’ll come out looking significantly worse than last time.” Us unionists will all then laugh. James Macpherson January 22, 2019 at 1:05 pm “Joxit” – a letter writing campaign to The National should get that term established (if not, there’s always Twitter . . . ) Hallowed Be January 22, 2019 at 1:49 pm Its obviously going to come up every so often for the forseeable long term future so why not pass a fixed term scottish independance referenda bill. I dinnae know – every 10 years? PJH January 22, 2019 at 3:00 pm I dinnae know – every 10 years? How about once a generation? Salmond: ‘Referendum is once in a generation opportunity’ The Scottish referendum vote was supposed to be “once in a generation”. But how long is that? Alex Salmond accused of rewriting history after he denies ‘once in a lifetime’ referendum pledge Hallowed Be January 22, 2019 at 4:27 pm Yeah i’d put a generation at 20 years but think it needs to be less than that. A party is winning elections regularly whose raison/ d’etre is an independent Scottish state. They could at anytime (after a victory) declare UDI or force one or hold things up trying to get one. Just formalise it constitutionally and everyone knows where they stand. Arthur Teacake, Edinburgh/Highlands January 23, 2019 at 2:33 pm I suspect a lot of people vote SNP while not wanting independence. They went straight from No to SNP, maybe for lack of a palatable alternative. I haven’t been discussing this kind of thing since Brexit though, I’m keeping my (English) head down. Leave a Reply Cancel replyYour email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *Comment Name * Email * Website Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment.