Yes, you shouldMarch 28, 2019 Tim WorstallTimmy Elsewhere29 CommentsGo here and then do that. It’s a public consultation that you will enjoy ‘coz you get to tell ’em. previousFascinating stuffnextLordy be there’s a richness to this 29 thoughts on “Yes, you should” Gasman March 28, 2019 at 3:55 pm Done, though that was long and tedious. Sadly short of questions about whether it’s a good or desirable idea in the first place. It did start me thinking though: did the USSR (for example) have national rules on whereabouts in shops particular food had to be? Did they plan down to that level of detail, or are we currently going past peak-Soviet central planning? Tim Worstall March 28, 2019 at 4:40 pm Definitely post=Soviet. The Russians never did have any food to plan to put anywhere. Gasman March 28, 2019 at 6:06 pm Good point – something to look forward to in due course Chris Miller March 28, 2019 at 6:47 pm The survey seems to have been designed by an anally-retentive moron. Or someone paid by the question. Who is actually going to spend time carefully answering this sort of drivel? BlokeInTejasInNormandy March 28, 2019 at 6:51 pm Amazing. But extremely tedious. And many questions are phrased in a manner which makes it clear that the proposals are a Very Good Thing and so it’s only the details which need pinning down. A government which will believe in this nonsense … Bloody hell! Joe P March 28, 2019 at 7:03 pm Tedious in the extreme, and couched in such a manner as to get the desired answer. bilbaoboy March 28, 2019 at 7:24 pm All the above My main reply was that ‘This is not government business.’ Effectively, no consideration of whether the policy should not be implemented. Mr Ecks March 28, 2019 at 7:39 pm They should have used the “strongly agree/disagree” format. Leaving a box enabled me to tell them what I thought. And I put something in nearly every box. They clearly think they are a gift to the Universe. I pray I have done my bit to disabuse them of that notion. BiTiN March 28, 2019 at 8:10 pm Alas, lads, since we’re not appropriately certificated gentlepersons of the appropriate opinion our thoughts and desires will be discarded. It’s like the Brexit referendum – those who voted to leave are stupid or white or filled by Putin’s propaganda or…. Still, one must try. I found it bizarre that they didn’t require an acknowledgement from the mail address before apparently accepting the submission. WindyPants March 28, 2019 at 8:46 pm Done. If one didn’t know better, one might assume that it wasn’t structured to accommodate the viewpoint “Fuck off – this is nothing to do with you!” RichardT March 28, 2019 at 11:11 pm Done. But good grief; 80 weighted questions! Presumably designed to stop us ordinary people from commenting. Geoff Taylor March 29, 2019 at 12:12 am “It is simply no business of the State to interfere in everyday normal food purchasing decisions” That was my response to most of those questions. Ian B March 29, 2019 at 12:12 am Sorry, not done. They don’t want our opinion, but they do want to be seen to want our opinion. It will change nothing. We could have a national referendum, all vote No, win it, and they would say that not implementing these controls is “undeliverable” and just ignore the fuck out of us. Because that is what they do. BniC March 29, 2019 at 12:28 am ‘It did start me thinking though: did the USSR (for example) have national rules on whereabouts in shops particular food had to be? Did they plan down to that level of detail, or are we currently going past peak-Soviet central planning?’ Funnily enough my mother said the other day that what she likes most about Aldi is that wherever you are they are all laid out the same so she can always find what she wants Mr Ecks March 29, 2019 at 2:36 am “Because that is what they do.” Not without consequences tho’. Remember –their goal is us lower than whaleshit –and people are waking up. The French see it. Fred March 29, 2019 at 7:00 am I also responded along the lines of other commenters:- “In my opinion this is a dimwitted response to a non-existent problem. Where’s the proof that one third of children are obese: some “studies suggest” wishful thinking on the part of rent seekers? Why are these fat kids seldom seen? Also, it penalises those at the lower end of the income scale (single mums trying to eke out whatever little they earn from zero-hours contracts just to make some nasty, doctrinaire point), Common sense, really. You lot should try it sometime.” I doubt my response will even get read, Ian B nails it above. Stonyground March 29, 2019 at 8:58 am The obese kids come from the fact that the BMI scale was incorrectly formulated from the start. It would work if it was being applied to cardboard cutout people. As a consequence it is biased against short people and is not suitable to be applied to children. On the radio news this morning there was a story about another “charity”, a new one that I hadn’t heard of, declaring that the shops are stocking Easter Eggs too early and this needed to be stopped. gareth March 29, 2019 at 9:23 am OMG – how have we fallen to this: “77. Do you think that any of the proposals in this consultation would help achieve any of the following aims: – Eliminating discrimination, harassment, victimisation and any other conduct that is prohibited by or under the Equality Act 2010 – Advancing equality of opportunity between persons who share a relevant protected characteristic and persons who do not share it? – Fostering good relations between persons who share a relevant protected characteristic and persons who do not share it?” Scum ! (But scum who are in the driving seat and robbing your wallet. Read and weep.) napsjam March 29, 2019 at 9:51 am Done. Just as everyone said, by heck that was tedious. good to tell them where to get off, though. Note, by the way, the small reminder that we have plenty of home-grown prod-nosed idiocy to compete with the supply from Brussels, whether that supply is cut off or not. KevinS March 29, 2019 at 10:09 am Done that, in much the way others have done here. With suggestions that if government wants to do something useful then scrapping agencies such as PHE would be a start! Wonko the sane March 29, 2019 at 10:50 am It’s like pulling teeth Longrider March 29, 2019 at 11:15 am I should have set up a macro to automate “none of your business”. bloke in spain March 29, 2019 at 12:59 pm Why do you bother? The only reason for “public consultations” is to introduce a policy that “has been the subject of a public consultation”. It’s not an attempt to consult the public. They’re not interested. Area I lived in London was to have a Controlled Parking Zone. But a public consultation was required. Result? 70 of private residents opposed. 98% of businesses opposed. CPZ was brought in 2 weeks after the consultation result. The lead time on supply of Pay-and-Display machines is in the region of a year. The CPZ was coming in whatever. The consultation was pure theatre. Pingback: That Was Fun – Longrider john 77 March 29, 2019 at 4:38 pm @ gareth That 77 is nothing to do with me Answer to 78 (ways to reduce inequality of opportunity) “Ban sales of confectionary and sugary drinks to young females of colour as they are disproportionately liable to suffer Type 2 diabetes” – interestingly a highly-gendered problem. Lord T March 29, 2019 at 5:50 pm I nearly gave up. I only have so many hours left before I pop off. I had fun with the answers but I suspect that it is another government consolation and they have already decided anyway. It’s almost as if there is no democracy in the UK. Stonyground March 29, 2019 at 9:56 pm I can’t believe that you guys didn’t make the most of this. Every single question came with a box to let them know what you really think. FFS, let them know what you think. john 77 March 29, 2019 at 11:49 pm @ Stonyground Not *every* question. I did write something in scores of boxes, mostly to the effect of “this is the wrong solution” jollygreenman March 30, 2019 at 2:50 pm I could not complete the questionnaire as I could not keep my Tourrettes under control. All I wanted to say is FOAD U SDHeads. Oh, and they so miss the power they had during rationing in WWII. Closet Natzis, the whole ficking lot of them. Leave a Reply Cancel replyYour email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *Comment Name * Email * Website Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment.