An important question I don’t know the answer to

This climate emergency by Labour thing. Is that an emergency under the Civil Contingencies Act?

Basically, they can do absolutely anything they damn well want to.

So, to the interesting question. This climate emergency that Labour wants to declare. Is it an emergency as defined under the Civil Contingencies Act 2004? And thus the end to democracy, liberty, freedom and our delivery into the clutches of the eco-fascists? Or it it a bit of blow hard puffery of no real meaning at all?

Inquiring minds would like to know, eh?

13 thoughts on “An important question I don’t know the answer to”

  1. In Corbyn’s Marxist wet dreams, I would imagine the former. But expect it’s puff & nonsense to attract the environ-mental impatients.

  2. Not my field, but I don’t think there’s any requirement for Parliament to declare an emergency under the Civil Contingencies Act; I think the government can do so itself.

    But I think a Parliamentary declaration of emergency would have an effect, thus:

    Normally, given how wide the powers are, I should think the Supreme Court would come down heavily on an attempt by the government to claim emergency powers without very good grounds.

    But if Parliament has already declared there to be an emergency (especially on an Opposition motion with cross-party support), it would be much more difficult for the courts to object that there wasn’t really an emergency.

    So:
    – does it make any formal difference? I think not (unless we’ve got a real expert here who thinks otherwise).
    – does it make it easier for the government to claim emergency powers if it chooses to? Highly probably yes.

  3. Trump is trying to get his wall built by declaring a “national emergency”. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

  4. The executive summary is that the British public are about to be bent over and given it up the back passage without lubricant. The legalities aren’t important, where there’s a will there’s a tax.

  5. I think this is a legitimate fear. I don’t even think it would take Corbyn to do it, either. Apart from anything else, for the Tories it would be a way out of Brexiting.

  6. Given the definition of ‘Emergency’ you quote, it’s very hard to see how climate, today, tomorrow or in a century could be described as an ‘Emergency’. We would need rather more cast iron evidence of ‘serious damage’ to human welfare or the environment. If a volcano popped up in the Irish Sea & started chucking ash & lava all over Wales & the Midlands then that would count, but not much less than that.

  7. “Trump is trying to get his wall built by declaring a “national emergency”. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.”

    Hard to tell who is the goose and who is the gander in your analogy.

    Presidents declare national emergencies. You act as if Trump’s use would be unprecedented. It wouldn’t be. The previous 3 presidents declared FORTY TWO. So fvck off.

    2. There IS a national emergency! You Brits have one, too. You are accepting it at your own peril.

  8. Emergency under the CCA was clearly defined by Humpty Dumpty

    (1)In this Part “emergency” means—
    (a)an event or situation which threatens serious damage to human welfare in a place in the United Kingdom,
    (b)an event or situation which threatens serious damage to the environment of a place in the United Kingdom, or
    (c)war, or terrorism, which threatens serious damage to the security of the United Kingdom.
    (2)For the purposes of subsection (1)(a) an event or situation threatens damage to human welfare only if it involves, causes or may cause—
    (a)loss of human life,
    (b)human illness or injury,
    (c)homelessness,
    (d)damage to property,
    (e)disruption of a supply of money, food, water, energy or fuel,
    (f)disruption of a system of communication,
    (g)disruption of facilities for transport, or
    (h)disruption of services relating to health.

    Who decides? A minister of the crown

    ,,,,means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less…..

  9. Given the current polls and possibility of a Labour Government, it would pave the way for mandatory, perhaps uncompensated, nationalisation of key industries, utilities, and central control of the economy, and organisation of the labour force by unionisation.

    I think this is the game plan rather than the Corbyn creature fretting about the climate.

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