Paula’s going to get in trouble

One user hit back that “people should be able to identify how they chose”, to which Radcliffe replied: “They can identify however they want to. Just not in a sporting competition where they can deprive a woman of a qualifying place.

“This is because qualifying times for women are slower than for men since biological men are capable of running faster than biological women.”

22 thoughts on “Paula’s going to get in trouble”

  1. The more of these high profile athletes speak out, the harder it’s going to be to claim their are in the minority. There’s safety in numbers.

  2. *fetches popcorn*

    I’d be more sympathetic if women hadn’t spent the last 5 years demanding the same money and respect as men.

  3. The more of these high profile athletes speak out, the harder it’s going to be to claim their are in the minority. There’s safety in numbers.

    There is no limit to the size of “the extremist fringe” in the eyes of Progressives. Literally everyone not in the same room of them could disagree and they would still be “the extremist fringe”.

    Enjoy actually seeing these stories in the news now, as the governments plans for controlling “hateful content” and “fake news” will soon make them disappear.

  4. She lives quite close to me ( albeit in vastly more salubrious circumstances)- I see her jogging occasionally
    It astonished me that this is a serious “debate”, there is no debate. Unless men and women are two separate and distinct categories then women’s sport is just sport for people who are not as good at it.
    You might as well define breaststroke as front crawl and win the breaststroke , or define springs as shoes and win the high jump and ( come to think of it) we did have a runner on springs , not so much the differently able poster boy nowadays is he
    Sport and games have arbitrary rules , that is the point and while we may have a human right to a decent life we quite obviously don`t have a human right to win at the all women whose got the biggest penis world cup

    Its farcical

  5. PS – More broadly , I really think the uber Liberal politics of the US campus and / or London Labour Party et all ought to its part in provoking the fundamentalist backlash that has lead to Brexit Trump Oban resurgent French Fascism and the rest of the loons

  6. allthegoodnamesaretaken

    “Generations of hard work cultivating women’s sports, oceans of money spent, and ‘transgender activists’ will burn it all to the ground in a matter of months. Women’s sports are over, feminists. You lost an intersectional squabble with a more preferred victim group.” John Hayward

  7. There’s no superficial reason men and women shouldn’t be able get equally good at chucking pointy things at a board 9 feet away. But we have results and we can see there’s not an even spread. So to create a challenge for the players and a competitive spectacle for an audience people create the female category. The other category, to use newmanias e.g, more like freestyle in swimming, you can do what you like, most do crawl but occasionally a swimmer uses butterfly.

    So it’s results and the need for a competitive set up, that should drive the arbitrary rules. Let the trans compete sui generis for a while look at the results and make the category rules accordingly.

  8. There’s no superficial reason men and women shouldn’t be able get equally good at chucking pointy things at a board 9 feet away.

    Well, there is, women throw like girls.

    Jimmers,

    The sisterhood will be fine, not so the ‘sisterhood’.

  9. It’s the runners-up who baffle me. Given they’ve just been cheated out of their rightful place on the podium why don’t they throw off their medals and denounce the Rachel Mackinnons as the frauds they are, then leave the “winner” looking like the bulling creep “she” is. They’d never compete again of course, but frankly what is the point of competing now anyway?

    And who on earth sponsers this farce? They should be punished in the balance sheets.

  10. “They can identify however they want to.”

    Sure. But that creates no obligation on anyone else. Identify as a 3-legged horse if you want to. But I’m not giving you any hay.

    ‘However, in a shake-up of entry rules, the Boston Athletic Association officially confirmed before last year’s event that transgender runners could compete in the Marathon Major as the gender with which they identify.’

    Their race; their rules. Apply asterisks to records to reflect their rules. Fastest times may not qualify as world records. International bodies should announce conspicuously that the Boston Marathon women’s race is not sanctioned.

    Good quote, allthegoodnamesaretaken. Play stupid games; win stupid prizes. It’s a shame all the Left’s victim groups don’t figure out that they are just tools. Even with this, the feminists still don’t realize it. They think the Left loves them.

  11. define springs as shoes and win the high jump

    Many gymnasts could somersault over a bar set at world record high jump level, but they take off from both feet, which is forbidden by the rules. Nearly all sports have a long list of more or less arbitrary rules, there’s no logical reason why these cannot include ‘arbitrary’ definitions of who is deemed to be ‘female’.

  12. “.. Nearly all sports have a long list of more or less arbitrary rules, ..”

    Indeed. Games and sports are defined by their rules. If you don’t want to obey them, pick another or start your own.

  13. And it’s a shame the Boston Athletic Association will throw away it’s good name and traditions in support of something as spurious as transgender rights. The Boston Athletic Association doesn’t value the Boston Marathon.

  14. Paula Radcliffe is objecting to cheating. Simple as that.
    I don’t do Twitter but if any of you do, may I ask you to respond to any attacks on her with “So you approve of cheating?”

  15. Paula Radcliffe is showing how 80 per cent of the British public are totally cool are relaxed about all of this.

  16. How bad would a male heavyweight boxer have to be to identify as a woman and NOT be able to win the women’s heavyweight world championship?

    I thinking a long time retired and suffering from dementia.

    Even then 20 seconds lucid would probably be enough.

  17. @Rob April 8, 2019 at 9:42 am

    Enjoy actually seeing these stories in the news now, as the governments plans for controlling “hateful content” and “fake news” will soon make them disappear.

    +1

    I’m surprised Mr Worstall hasn’t written about it:

    Websites that break new online code could be blocked in the UK and fined up to £20million, as critics accuse ‘totalitarian’ reforms of censorship

    Under the new rules, any website which allows users to post content will have a legal ‘duty of care’ to all users.

    The regulations will apply to firms such as Google and Facebook

    But they will also apply to smaller websites which allow users to post comments, including blogs, and online news and review sites.

    The government is proposing new GDPR-style laws to fine websites over “harmful online content” in a bid to make the UK “the safest place in the world to go online”.

    Paradoxically, perhaps, the paper’s vision is for a “free, open and secure internet” supporting “freedom of expression online”

  18. Pcar,

    Ain’t gonna happen.

    I set up blah.com. It’s hosted in the USA. The domain details are protected. I maintain it from the UK. How does May’s fascist Internet Police know this? They block blah.com because it’s bad? blah2.com is live the next day. You want to block that? Get another court order and it’ll be blah3.com the following day.

    And you wait until those scamps at 4chan get hold of this and start mirroring every site, creating protocols to encrypt traffic and so forth.

    Honestly, I don’t believe a word of it. This is a combination of We Will Protect Your Children and probably desperately hoping the old media will support the Conservatives.

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