The problem is what Owen?

In the Brexit era, Britain is more Mr Bean than James Bond
Owen Jones

Doesn’t Bean always come out right in the end, whatever the chaos in the middle?

27 thoughts on “The problem is what Owen?”

  1. Has he ever met a Brexit supporter? I have never heard or read anything by a brexiteer harking back to the days of empire. In fact the only empire involved is the one we are trying to leave and to which OJ clings mindlessly.

  2. Mr Bean – loveable, rubber-faced funnyman who brings smiles to millions of people around the world with his ingeniously comic adventures.

    Mr Bond – alcoholic, STD-riddled public sector employee played by an actor so tedious he makes the Welsh-language Paint Drying Championships on Eurosport look like must-see TV.

    Johnny English FTW

  3. “I have never heard or read anything by a brexiteer harking back to the days of empire. ”

    Do these people ever stop to think about this stuff, or is it just sell papers to the similarly stupid. The bulk of independence from Britain was done by the mid-60s. To even remember that, you have to be 60. To have any nostalgia for it you probably have to be in your 90s.

    The thing with everyone in the Guardian Left is that they always think they’re the hip rebels. But look at them. They still listen to vinyl. They think trams are a good idea. They want arts subsidised that have been superseded by better forms. They want libraries kept open, despite almost no-one using them. They’re the most conservative people in the UK.

  4. Dennis the Peasant

    Mr Bond – alcoholic, STD-riddled public sector employee played by an actor so tedious he makes the Welsh-language Paint Drying Championships on Eurosport look like must-see TV.

    You forgot to mention that Jame Bond runs around killing people (mostly foreigners) at the drop of a hat. Just the sort of thing Owen Jones approves of, I’m sure…

    Oh yeah, Bond is also sexist as hell. Something else Owen’s on board with.

    Which actor would that be? The only one who wasn’t tedious was Roger Moore, and that was only because he refused to take any of it seriously.

  5. My late grandmother, born 1912 in South Africa, used to tell me stories of her childhood and to be fair the empire sounded awesome.

  6. I’ve never heard anyone, not even my unashamedly racist late grandmother who died several years ago at the age of 95, express sorrow or regret over the loss of empire.

    I have not even heard mild pining.

    Just crickets.

  7. The only people I’ve heard bemoaning the loss of empire are black Africans in Zimbabwe and Uganda.

    I’ll go with Mr Bean if the EU is a blue three wheeler.

  8. I’m old enough to have been in the empire, service family, overseas postings etc. I don’t pine for it, I think it was a massive waste of blood and treasure.

  9. Libraries are great, it’s just the way they are run in U.K. with stupid opening hours and acting as if the public are an inconvenience.
    Libraries are much better run locally and are busy and seen as a community resource

  10. I have met oldsters in the Indian subcontinent and Africa who’ve voiced the opinion that while not paradise it was preferable to their present circumstances. I’ve also been abused by younger folk blaming their present problems on my predecessors the colonialists…

    Merely an observation from the front lines…

    I did enjoy some aspects of Blair’s initial foray into things military in Sierra Leone when the locals expressed enthusiasm for being ruled and governed from London – some classic vox pop on the BBC that must by now have gone into the shredder.

  11. The Meissen Bison

    I met an elderly Ghanaian in Accra who insisted that he thought of himself as a Gold Coaster. And hotel bookshops in parts of the world that were coloured pink in my Bartholomew’s School Atlas always seem to have lots of P G Wodehouse for sale.

    By contrast the African country that was never colonised was a surprise. The Addis Ababa Hilton in the days of Col. Mengistu had a vast stock of Barbara Cartland titles.

  12. I find it interesting when Remoaners say Brexiteers are looking back to the days of Empire because a key point, to me, of the ending of Empire was that it evolved into the Commonwealth fairly pragmatically.

    Obviously the British didn’t want to give independence to India and there were wars in Rhodesia and Kenya but when it became clear that break up of Empire was inevitable the British realised that it was better to do it amicably and keep these countries as friends rather than fight bitterly to the end. A lesson the French/EU Empire hasn’t learnt.

    People who were there might remember it differently and I’d like to hear supporting or different views.

  13. I have never heard or read anything by a brexiteer harking back to the days of empire

    It’s their cartoon image of their opponents – they never meet actual normal people, their idea of what their enemies think is the product of the arms race of lunacy in Progressive circles.

    Staffs uni giving Owen an honourary doctorate pretty much sums up what’s wrong with Britain for me

    For services to political hysteria? Or political repression in Venezuela?

  14. Rhonda: “I think ()the empire) was a massive waste of blood and treasure.”
    That was also generally the attitude of the Colonial Office as well. “Some damn idiot’s gone and invaded another bloody country again, now we’ve got to run the damn place.”

  15. ‘In the Brexit era’

    When is that?

    “Owen, wake up, you are having a dream. There’s no such thing as Brexit.”

  16. Back in the 1950s, I had a schoolmistress, Miss Knox, who always celebrated Empire Day (May 24th). She would tell us about the Empire and its history, adding that she hoped that some of us would leave England to serve the “fuzzy-wuzzles”. She was a dear old soul, and she’d shudder at multi-culturalism and mass immigration while still praying for the “darkies”.

  17. Rob –
    http://www.staffs.ac.uk/events/graduation/2015/honoraries/owen-jones.jsp
    http://www.staffs.ac.uk/news/owen-jones-makes-winning-speech-to-graduates-tcm4284643.jsp
    http://www.staffs.ac.uk/news/political-commentator-owen-jones-visits-staffordshire-university-tcm4289071.jsp

    In fact, here’s a list which seems to have more than its fair share of lefty establishment luvvies. http://www.staffs.ac.uk/events/graduation/honoraries/ So at least alumni can’t argue their degrees have been devalued by Owen because Polly Toynbee in 2004 meant they can’t have had much value to begin with…

  18. Edward Lud: We could do with more of it

    In that case let me add, m’Lud, that I found an English language translation of La Rochefoucauld’s Maximes in a hotel in Colombo Fort.

    I only mention the version being in the English language to show that it wasn’t a plant by the ghastly and poseltyzing Alliance Française.

  19. Guyana isn’t a U.S. territory.*

    *Granted, in today’s CM run world, anything could happen. Hillarycrats would vote for Guyana statehood.

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