Britain may be in the mood for a nationalist prime minister who is prepared to see minorities lose out, according to an alarming poll on populism in Prospect magazine. The poll mines a worrying seam of anti-democratic, anti-civil rights instincts on the right, with Conservatism moving rapidly rightwards.

By 61% to a meagre 18%, voters agree with the sentiment that “a prime minister should always put the British majority first even if it means minorities lose out”.

The people getting what the people want, good and hard, is democracy. It may well not be civil liberty, that’s true. But then that also goes for all those other sorts of democracy too, like economic democracy…..

30 thoughts on “Err, Polly?”

  1. …and that ‘British’ majority will include 3rd generation West Indians, Gujeraties, Bangla-deshies, Sikhs, Nepalese, Pakistanis, Chinese….. Being British has little to do with ethnicity, and everything to do with cultural assimilation, and as a third-generation immigrant of Irish/German descent, I should know.

  2. The silly cow is all in favour of a Labour majority oppressing a Tory minority, or indeed any minority.

    She and her fellow travelers firmly believe that “a Labour prime minister should always put the Labour majority first even if it means Tory and other minorities lose out”

  3. Politicians doing what I approve of – democracy

    Politicians doing what I disapprove of – populism

  4. ” anti-democratic, anti-civil rights instincts on the right”

    Wanting the result of a national referendum upheld = anti democratic?
    Supporting free speech = anti civil rights?

    “…with Conservatism moving rapidly rightwards.”

    On what effing planet?

  5. Bloke in Cornwall

    @Stonyground – it’s relativity at work… they are moving so fast to the left that from their perspective it seems the right is moving away from them faster….

  6. Personally, I think the feelings of the minority who support Brexit should be given due consideration

    Ignorant hate of foreigners
    Inability to grasp basic economic facts
    Resentment of anyone who knows anything
    Strong feelings of “There ought to be a law against it , combined with “i`ll do what I bloody well like thanks ”

    I have given all these due consideration . None

  7. Newmania
    If I had any appreciation for straw men I would applaud your post from the rooftops.

    But I don’t.

  8. Don’t feed the troll, people, his deliberate misrepresentation of reality is not worthy of a reasoned response. Far better to ignore him.

  9. …the minority who support Brexit…

    Those who don’t already know what a worthless shite you are will figure it out right there.

  10. True all. Democracy is great if the Left wins; right’s of minorities must be protected if the Left loses.

    Heads they win; tails you lose.

  11. Words of what-passes-for-wisdom from the Facepaintraitor.

    Betrays his nation and his people cos he thinks it will keep his precious income flowing –like the BlueLab middle class prick he is –but comes over all sanctimonious. Esp when–if you replace “hate” with “self-abasing , grovelling love (of foreign tyranny)”– he lists his own crimes to a T.

    Not going so well for your collapsing group of remainiac traitors is it Acryllic-Mug? Even your own beloved EU masters are openly laughing at your agent Treason May, having recognised that she is–just like you– a cowardly , crawling, treasonous worm.

  12. The poll mines a worrying seam of anti-democratic, anti-civil rights instincts on the right

    Terrifying. Scrap Brexit and jail people for telling off-colour jokes on the internet now!

  13. BiC.

    @Stonyground – it’s relativity at work… they are moving so fast to the left that from their perspective it seems the right is moving away from them faster…

    Is that what they call ‘red shift’?

  14. Minorities should not have any rights. Just the same ones as the rest of us. Is that so difficult to understand, or are some people just..special?

  15. @ rhoda
    You missed out the “extra” between “any” and “rights”. For a second you sounded like Polly, saying “we” should not have any rights.

  16. Only Polly and her like would think it wrong that a British Prime Minister puts the British majority first when dealing with the likes of Juncker who will always put it last in order to get something like a fair result.

  17. @ Kevin Lohse
    +1 (or maybe 1.5)
    My best friend as a kid was the son of two “Jewish” refugees from Hitler’s Germany (his mother was a High-Church Anglican so Jews don’t think she was Jewish), the next two were a 100% (as far as we knew) English boy and the son of a Polish RAF pilot. I am nearly half-Welsh, nearly half-English, with a trace of Irish and a German name. We were all English (Tebbit test – I supported Yorkshire against Glamorgan).

  18. the minority who support Brexit

    It’s a poor show when the ‘liberal elite’ doesn’t know that 52 is a bigger number than 48.

  19. Don’t you understand that the people who couldn’t be arsed to vote were 100% remainers?

  20. @ Stonyground
    Including all those who couldn’t be arsed to climb out of their graves to walk to the polling station.
    The turn-out % includes all those who died between October and June in the denominator.

  21. “The turn-out % includes all those who died between October and June in the denominator.”

    With the rolling monthly register, that’s not as true as it used to be, when a September election used a register that could be 10% deceased. Most local authorities have a working agreement with the local coronors to be notified of deaths so they can be marked off the register. The bigger problem now, ironically, is *under*registration, people moving into an area and not bothering to register until reminded in October.

  22. @MC 7.10 “It’s a poor show when the ‘liberal elite’ doesn’t know that 52 is a bigger number than 48.”

    But MC, didn’t you know: War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, some men are are women etc…

  23. “By 61% to a meagre 18%, voters agree with the sentiment that “a prime minister should always put the British majority first even if it means minorities lose out”.”

    If ‘minorities’ aren’t British, don’t they have their own countries to live in?

  24. Why the assumption that a nationalist prime minister would treat one Briton differently to another I don’t understand. That a nationalist prime minister would treat Britons better than non-Britons seems obvious, but why would the Welsh, the Irish, the Scots or any other minority Briton get different treatment?

  25. You spend so much time, Tim, on Mr Potato Head, that you devote hardly any to Preposterous Pol, the Ur-witch of Umbria.

  26. – ‘By 61% to a meagre 18%, voters agree with the sentiment that “a prime minister should always put the British majority first even if it means minorities lose out”.

    Or, to quote Jeremy Corbyn: ‘For the many, not the few.”

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