This does seem about right

Harvey Weinstein’s new lawyer has said women need to take responsibility for their actions, as she argued the #MeToo movement had done a disservice to the sex.

Donna Rotunno, who specialises in representing men accused of sex crimes, was hired by the disgraced producer along with Damon Cheronis to represent him at his upcoming trial on sexual assault charges.

Ms Rotunno has critcised the #MeToo movement which began after a string of celebrities came forward to make allegations against Mr Weinstein. “I’m not a woman who has ever subscribed to it,” she told the Wall Street Journal. “I believe women are responsible for the choices that they make.”

If you’ve used the casting couch to get your break then yes, it does seem reasonable that you are responsible for that choice. There are, after all, any number of women out there who have not used the casting couch to gain their break.

18 thoughts on “This does seem about right”

  1. “You won’t get this job unless you sleep with me” might well not be illegal, but it does make the scoundrel a bounder and cad, first class, with bar and oak-leaf cluster. How do we best ostracise such astonishingly rich and influential fellows? That classical liberal social punishment where a legal one would be excessive.

  2. ““You won’t get this job unless you sleep with me” might well not be illegal, but it does make the scoundrel a bounder and cad, first class, with bar and oak-leaf cluster. How do we best ostracise such astonishingly rich and influential fellows? ”

    Fair enough, but if a woman says ‘Give me the role and I’ll sleep with you’ what does that make her, and what punishment should she get from society?

  3. The thing with the “casting couch” isn’t that an actress gets a part, it’s that a young actress becomes a star. They get a role that shifts them up in the list. But you, as the producer, see no benefit in that. She does your film and off the back of it, wins an award that raises her rate for subsequent films. And you don’t get a cut of that.

    Getting an actress to fuck you is just a way of extracting some of that value.

  4. “allthegoodnamesaretaken

    “Fair enough, but if a woman says ‘Give me the role and I’ll sleep with you’ what does that make her, and what punishment should she get from society?”

    A prostitute. ”

    suppose she says ‘marry me, support me financially and give me a lifestyle I’d not otherwise get and I’ll sleep with you’?

  5. Adam Corolla has a funny riff on the casting couch. The question is “What other profession do you get a job based on sleeping with someone?” Sleep with me and you get to perform a heart bypass? Says more about the “profession” of acting than anything. Adam of course does it much better than I ever could.

  6. Jeanne G,

    It’s not specifically about acting. It’s about 2 things:-

    1) who does it? (hot young women)
    2) what’s the ratio? (tens of thousands of people capable of doing it chasing 1 job)

    No-one is going to have a casting couch for programmers. There’s plenty of other jobs out there and the women aren’t that hot;

  7. Interesting you should provide that link, allthegoodnamesaretaken. Because the assumptions it’s based on are utter bollocks. As I thought YimW knew.

  8. @ Steve
    If you were a Prince of Greece and a rising star in the Royal Navy, and the best Polo player in England, would you actually *want* that job?
    [Philip had a distinguished record in RN and, as grandson of a former First Sea Lord and nephew of a future one he was unlikely to be overlooked for promotion]

  9. >The thing with the “casting couch” isn’t that an actress gets a part, it’s that a young actress becomes a star. They get a role that shifts them up in the list. But you, as the producer, see no benefit in that. She does your film and off the back of it, wins an award that raises her rate for subsequent films. And you don’t get a cut of that.

    You, the producer, do see some benefit down the line, though. In future years her bigger profile helps your film keep selling on DVD, yet you never had to pay her the big bucks she could later command.

    For me, Weinstein’s a scumbag who should have been drummed out of the profession years ago,. But the real story isn’t him. The real story is all the leftists and feminists who covered up for him for all those years.

  10. There are, after all, any number of women out there who have not used the casting couch to gain their break.

    Yep; Joan Collins says she always refused – iirc one was to be Cleopatra Joan said “No” Elizabeth Taylor said “Yes”

  11. @ Hector Drummond
    There’s a big thing in the MSM about how Boris and Jezza are befefitting from nostalgia – so where are the horsewhips for scum like Weinstein?

  12. Not just women, men were put in the same position by female and gay male executives, just those don’t get as reported

  13. In formal contractual terms, the victim is The Weinstein Company. If Weinstein chose an actress based on her willingness to sleep with him rather than her acting ability, then they didn’t put forward the best possible film, and presumptively made less money than they would have done with a better actress who wouldn’t sleep with HW.

    Also, even if it was the best actress, HW was negotiating for additional services on top of just acting – which means that TWC was paying the actress more than it would have done if he hadn’t cast through the couch.

    Either way, HW was extracting value from TWC. The actress is just the intermediary (assuming true freedom of contract, of course, ie that she could say no, walk away, and suffer no consequence other than not getting that particular role).

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