Complete the story

A traditional opening line for you:

A group of trans women, gay men and a non-binary person went to the bar together….

22 thoughts on “Complete the story”

  1. “Instead of trying to shield the women from the abuse, the bar’s security then decided to throw out the entire group of eight LGBTQ people, as well as the couple, the women said…”

    Security treated them all equally then! ‘Throw out the troublemakers’ is in their job description.

  2. A group of trans women, gay men and a non-binary person went to the bar together…. and absolutely no tranny drama ensued, in fact a good time was had by all.

  3. …..and their appearance was entirely unremarkable, they never once mentioned anything to do with their sexual predilections, and no-one had a clue what they liked to get up to in bed, just like all the other people in the bar.

    A fairy tale (ha ha) I know………….

  4. In fairness to Bianchi, (s)he might be physically unconvincing as a woman, but (s)he comes close in what (s)he says:

    “I have to get up and put on my makeup and just be strong …

    “Don’t touch me like that! I need my shoe.”

  5. Just shows you how accepting the general public are of men-in-frocks. Yes they may have legal rights, thanks to the stupidity of politicians. But rights require the community to accept the obligations to respect them. From what I can see of the video, there don’t seem many of the bar’s other customers objecting to what security’s doing. Maybe feeling a bit short on obligations?

  6. All rather sad really – think there might be separate gay bars for some time to come. And if campaigns by trans people against the discrimination or hate they face wind you up, incidents like this are the kind that need to end before they stop having a point. It shouldn’t matter if you don’t find the way a trans person presents as “passing”, it’s not the kind of thing it’s a good idea to tell them to their face either way. Live and let live, especially on a night out where you’re all supposed to be enjoying yourselves…

  7. MBE – we don’t know anything about this minor incident except what the trannies have said, so while it’s possible these stunning and brave gender benders were just trying to peacefully enjoy a feminine pint before being set upon by hateful Hispanic heterofascists, I wouldn’t bet money on it.

    In countries that are supposedly more relaxed about gender stuff, ladyboys are still regarded as a public nuisance, most likely because they are.

    Incidentally, I’m told trans aren’t universally welcomed at gay bars either, which reminds me of this observation:

    “If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you’re the asshole.”

  8. “MBE – we don’t know anything about this minor incident except what the trannies have said, so while it’s possible these stunning and brave gender benders were just trying to peacefully enjoy a feminine pint before being set upon by hateful Hispanic heterofascists, I wouldn’t bet money on it.”

    It’s also notable that when you get down into the article, it turns out that they kicked out both the trannies and the straight couple.

    Here’s my guess on what really happened:-

    Trans group are sat at the table
    Straight couple sit next to them.
    Straight guy says something to his wife about “these guys in frocks”
    Trans guys are like “fucking excuse me”
    Guy says “what, I said you’re guys in frocks”
    One of the trannies says “fuck you transphobe”
    The straight guy takes a swing at one of them
    Trouble kicks off both ways
    Security tell them to get the fuck out
    They don’t.
    So, security just take all of them out by force.

    And what you see is just that last moment.

    When doormen do that stuff, it’s a last resort. They don’t want to do that. They’d much rather point at the door and you walk.

  9. MBE: All rather sad really

    Well yes, up to a point but the wider population resents having its nose rubbed in otherness and celebrations of otherness.

    In this instance it would seem that a group of activists visited the bar and were not prepared by appearance or behaviour to make any concessions to other clients frequenting the place so they deserve limited sympathy.

  10. To get some gender fluid.

    “I’ll have an umbrella in mine”

    “No need for that we haven’t run out of hamsters”

  11. TMB

    We at my work keep being asked to buy rainbow security pass lanyards, car stickers, flags, mugs etc and to attend various office Pride marches or seminars held in the evenings or at weekends. Out of solidarity if we’re not part of the alphabeti spaghetti.

    “Honestly, I’m not homo or trans phobic – some of my best friends are shirt lifters and bearded ladies”, but……I’ll end up hating them.

  12. BraveFart, in a similar context I’ve seen LGBTQWERTY+ ‘and their allies’. Which makes people who are accepting but don’t want to make a fuss, what, the axis?

  13. Looks like people are biting back about being compelled by state to pander to, like & accept others. Doesn’t surprise me.

    Left blame Trump – doesn’t surprise me

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/27/poll-young-americans-lgbtq-acceptance-plunges-63-to-45-two-years/

    Little wonder public tolerance of LGBT+ declining:

    8th Place: A High School Girl’s Life After Transgender Students Joined Her Sport
    A growing number of school administrators want to silence women and girls who dare speak out about the ways transgender policies are harming them—but these brave young women refuse to be bullied or made to believe their concerns are hateful.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIlq85dL0C4

  14. Bloke in North Dorset

    I’ve just been listening to Brendan O’Neill talking to Peter Tatchell. It struck me that most radical social change is bottom up and tends to be resisted mostly by politicians. Only when they are certain that the general public is onside will they bend and then have the Chutzpah to claim they were for that change all along.

    If the public isn’t ready for that change no amount of hectoring by MPs will get them onside. As Pcar highlights, it can be counter productive.

  15. I always insist on one absolutely intolerable condition before I’m prepared to tolerate other people; they also have to tolerate me.

  16. “It struck me that most radical social change is bottom up and tends to be resisted mostly by politicians.”

    Absolutely 100%. Brexit/Trump are recent examples. Both are true grass roots based movements, with not a liberal intelligentsia type to be seen, and as such are derided by the establishment in a way rarely seen in a (supposedly) democratic State.

    Occasionally the two march in step – for example over society’s attitudes to homosexuality, the law changes have been largely matched by concurrent changes in the views of society as a whole so there was little clash between legislators and legislated.

    Unfortunately the political class have assumed it was their ‘progressive’ policies that created the societal change, rather than just occurring at the same time, but not being responsible for it. And as such have decided they can continue doing the same pretty much ad infinitum. Which they are discovering they can’t. Society is not ready for chicks with dicks being imposed on unwilling participants, and a big clash is looming.

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