Look, yes, I know, but why bother?

Indian transgender couple tie knot in landmark ‘rainbow wedding’
Bride and groom, who both underwent sex reassignment, comes as lower house of parliament votes to enshrine transgender rights

Wouldn’t it be easier to keep the plumbing arrangements and just be butch and femme respectively?

18 thoughts on “Look, yes, I know, but why bother?”

  1. If I’ve understood the ‘arrangements’ right this couple, if not yet operated on, could procreate. The mother would have a penis and inseminate the father, who has a womb and would bear the child. Dictionary definition revisions ae going to be doing a lot of heavy lifting in the future!

    Chances of the kid not being completely fucked up = 0%.

  2. The Meissen Bison

    I’m at pains not to imagine anything at all.

    There’s a link in the sidebar that must come close to being peak guardian:

    ‘I’m transgender’: India grapples with prejudices left over from British rule

    Bring back barbecued widows!

  3. TMB, to be fair that kind of stuff was actually going on in India for quite some time before British rule, and I can imagine the British didn’t take too kindly to it.

  4. In a book I was reading recently I saw reference to a “bisexual transvestite”. Is one allowed to use that sort of language nowadays?

  5. I think the serious answer is that the gender roles aren’t just played out in the context of the relationship. So presumably it’s to help minimise the gap between gender identity and how they look, feel, interact with the outside world.

  6. Are there rational reasons for why homosexuality was considered so bad to be criminal? I know people say that it grew under Christianity and there’s some truth in that, but religion adapts to society more than the other way around.

    Interesting one is that the mafia don’t like the gays. And the military only got it when they largely became redundant. Coal miners were generally anti-gay.

    Was this a trust thing? People in life and death situations wanting to know that the guy next to them would jump out of the trench with them, pull them out of a landslide? And did the changing nature of society (less precarious living) change that?

  7. I wonder if they were different castes. It would be ironic as f* if they refused to marry someone beneath their caste. Celebrate the trans bit, cover up the caste bit!

  8. Are there rational reasons for why homosexuality was considered so bad to be criminal?

    I reckon we’re in the process of finding out, what with the Trannypocalypse, “drag kids” twerking for money, schools encouraging the kiddies to consider if sexual deviancy is right for them, etc. The arc of sexual liberation politics has gone from acceptance -> tolerance -> celebration -> mandatory celebration -> ritual humiliation of the squares.

    Unbridled human sexuality is the most destructive power in the universe. This thing we call society simply can’t function for very long without functioning rules for shagging that serve what folks in Sandford call The Greater Good.

    It’s utterly fatuous of us to discount thousands of years of crowdsourced wisdom from our ancestors, congratulate ourselves for our enlightenedness, and lisp “love is love! XD”. Because, as a species that perpetuates itself via sexy reproduction, boffing is not a trivial pastime, it’s the single most important human activity.

    We should consider the fact that our ignorant, bigoted ancestors were able to successfully reproduce, while virtually every modern urban society on the planet is now failing at the most basic biological level of generating posterity.

    So who’s the idiot now? The noodle-armed childless Milennial gulping handfuls of antidepressants and gurning over his Nintendo Switch, or Superdad Genghis Khan?

  9. BonM4: “Was this a trust thing? People in life and death situations wanting to know that the guy next to them would jump out of the trench with them, pull them out of a landslide? “

    I’m not sure why the fact of them being gay would make that ever in doubt…

  10. Julia, They’d probably be posing around like the hairdresser in ‘Benidorm’ rather than getting on with the pulling …

  11. @dearieme

    These days no one gets the humor inherent in the statement “I am a lesbian trapped in a man’s body.” They’re all to busy trying to figure out where that is in the intersectionality league tables.

  12. JuliaM,

    It’s more a question than anything, I think. Change doesn’t happen randomly, and the mob thing interests me. The mob are quite rational. Why do the mob still have a problem with the gays?

  13. Steve,

    But there’s still superdads out there. How many kids does Charlie Sheen have? 11, isn’t it?

    I suspect in the past that incels never made it past childhood, walkabout, or their first trip to a city, or they signed up for the military in the hopes of getting some poontang and never came back.

  14. I’m so glad we were all browbeaten into accepting homos as normal. It didn’t have any unsavory knock on effects at all

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