Strange but true

Poland revived its demand for war reparations from Germany yesterday as the two states observed the 75th anniversary of the Warsaw uprising, in which at least 15,000 resistance fighters and 150,000 civilians were killed for daring to stand up against Hitler.

Polish MPs claim that the unpaid bill for the slaughter and destruction inflicted on their country could amount to as much as €1 trillion. The question cast a pall over the commemoration of the fiercest rebellion against Nazi rule anywhere in Europe, which culminated in the razing of Poland’s capital after two months of ferocious fighting.

A Jew in Germany in 1933 had a better chance of surviving to 1945 than a Pole in Warsaw.

Slightly a trick number of course, for the early year Nazis positively encouraged Jewish emigration. But still a surprising fact.

24 thoughts on “Strange but true”

  1. jgh – Might as well get German guilt to work for something constructive, such as giving Szymon money, instead of something destructive, such as pressuring Szymon into allowing kebabs to colonise his country.

  2. Got to love the Poles for their willingness to fight against the odds and hang the consequences. Most of the time it leads to death and emiseration, but occasionally, gloriously, it leads to victory and vindication, as in Pilsudski’s victory over the Soviets or Sobieski’s rescue of Europe outside Vienna.

  3. Corbyn is on the payroll of the Zionist Entity, charged with encouraging British Jews to emigrate to the ZE.

    Yours faithfully,

    Conspiracy fruitcake.

  4. Mind you I once saw someone described as a “Holocaust survivor”: his family had left Germany in 1933.

  5. ‘Poland revived its demand for war reparations from Germany’

    How bold.

    Russia invaded Poland, too. Twice.

    Let’s see ’em ask Putin for reparations.

  6. ” Russia invaded Poland, too. Twice.”Russia invaded Poland, too. Twice.Russia invaded Poland, too. Twice.”

    Technically it was the Soviet Union, so probably harder to pin it on Putin.

  7. That’s the problem with invasion reparations.

    The UK hasn’t been invaded for nearly 1,000 years. Nobody would be paying us anything.

    As one 19th century British admiral remarked. “I’m not saying that the enemy will not come to Britain. I am saying they won’t come by sea”

  8. @Andrew C

    Depends what you count, I think. Landing of troops in Ireland to support anti-British/English fighters there? Was 1688 essentially a successful invasion of the British mainland, retroactively written up as a continuation rather than usurpation of power?

  9. In fairness if you go back far enough the Poles have invaded Russia too, maybe we are supposed to just net off the invasions.

    As for U.K. surely attempted invasions have to count as there’s a cost to repelling them, why shouldn’t we be paid for losses to turn away the Spanish Armada just because they didn’t make it all the way to land.

  10. @BniC

    And in 1545, the French got further than the Spanish Armada and actually did manage to land troops, albeit on the Isle of Wight rather than the mainland. (The sinking of the Mary Rose being the better-remembered part of this French invasion attempt).

    And in 1797 the French landed at Fishguard, wherein they learned not to mess with a middle-aged Welshwoman with a pitchfork…

  11. “Was 1688 essentially a successful invasion of the British mainland, retroactively written up as a continuation rather than usurpation of power?”

    Yes, of course it was. Also Harry Tudor’s invasion in 1485.

    There was a successful, albeit brief, French invasion during one of the medieval civil wars: the same war that saw the Scots cavalry get to Dover, I think. I’m a bit vague on the Angevin years so I can’t be more precise.

  12. WKPD:

    In 1215, the … barons offered the throne to Prince Louis, who landed unopposed on the Isle of Thanet in eastern Kent, England, at the head of an army on 21 May 1216. There was little resistance when the prince entered London, and Louis was proclaimed king at Old St Paul’s Cathedral with great pomp and celebration in the presence of all of London. Even though he was not crowned, many nobles, as well as King Alexander II of Scotland on behalf of his English possessions, gathered to give homage.

    On 14 June 1216, Louis captured Winchester and soon controlled over half of the English kingdom.

  13. Poland had not existed in 1921. The Russians were taking back what had been Russian prior to the war.

    Self-determination of people’s is a concept only for those outside Communist rule, of course.

  14. The last foreign invasion of the British mainland (military anyway, not counting illiterate head-choppy child-rapey goat herders) was in February 1797 when the French invaded Pembroke.

    Being French, they surrendered soon after.

  15. The Meissen Bison

    It might be timely to remind the French that they need to pay off, with interest compounded, the ransom for King Jean II, taken at Poitiers.

    Should be around £39bn by now.

  16. BiW,

    They would have landed earlier, but they struggled to learn how to say “i bwy ydw i’n ildio?”

  17. ‘Poland had not existed in 1921.’

    But it had in 1918. And 966. Poland had a lot of history before 1921.

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *