We knew this, didn’t we?

Vegans could be lacking crucial nutrient for brain health, warns expert

Sadly, we always face that confounding factor. Is it the congenital idiocy that leads to the vegan diet or is it the vegan diet that causes the congenital idiocy?

32 thoughts on “We knew this, didn’t we?”

  1. Yesterday I saw that you can buy Vegan toothpaste in Boots. Toothpaste! And as for this recent fad for things such as Vegan burgers and sausage rolls, such that Beyond Meat can have a successful IPO, that is really beyond me. If you want to eat meat, why not eat meat rather than fake meat with who knows what dodgy chemicals in it?

  2. From the ‘Indy’:“Dr Emma Derbyshire, of Nutritional Insight, a consultancy specialising in nutrition and biomedical science, said the Government had failed to recommend or monitor levels of the nutrient.

    Writing in the online journal BMJ Nutrition, Prevention & Health, she said: “Given the important physiological roles of choline and authorisation of certain health claims, it is questionable why choline has been overlooked for so long in the UK. Choline is presently excluded from UK food composition databases, major dietary surveys, and dietary guidelines.””

    Next: the campaign to add choline to food just like they did with folic acid….

  3. Choline, choline, choline, choline,
    I’m begging of you please be in grits,
    Choline, choline, choline, choline,
    Please don’t forget those vegan twits.

    I’ll get me coat.

  4. “Vegans could be lacking crucial nutrient for brain health, warns expert”

    The key word there is ‘could’.

    Playing snakes and ladders could lead to you losing your house.

    If you gambled your house on a game of snakes and ladders and lost, you would lose your house.

  5. @bilbao

    The vegan argument on this is that mothers are human so capable of giving informed consent to breastfeeding. Plus the breastfeeding industry doesn’t require the deaths of thousands of humans…

    Cows are non-human animals, can’t consent to the taking of their milk, and vegetarians who eat and drink dairy products are betting hypocritical because indirectly the dairy industry requires the killing of unproductive animals eg male calves, even though you’re not eating them.

    I am not a vegan but I don’t think the breast milk thing is a “gotcha” moment, their argument about that is pretty coherent. The thing that does make me stare in incomprehension is their refusal to eat honey. I mean they’re only insects, they’re quite happy buzzing round and fertilising flowers, do you think they really mind terribly if we nick a bit of their produce? What’s got to be going on in your head of you think that humans looking after bees in return for getting some honey is an example of humanity at its darkest and most twisted?

  6. Bloke no Longer in Austria

    I have decided to take the first step on my path to true enlightenment with my decision to begin veganising.

    I have given up eating lard.

  7. MyBurningEars siad:
    “The thing that does make me stare in incomprehension is their refusal to eat honey …. do you think they really mind terribly if we nick a bit of their produce? ”

    They do seem to object when people do try to nick it.

  8. @RichardT

    This is true! But I don’t see why I should care that they care…

    It’s not like they’re anywhere near capable of making an informed choice, “rub along with us humans or we won’t bother keeping you”. I feel humanity is quite capable of making such decisions on their insectoid behalf. Perhaps this is what makes me a horrible person…

  9. One of the girls in our ladies team at the rugby club had “Vagitarian” printed on her tour t-shirt.

    Arf, arf.

  10. Andrew M: Plenty of choline in Brussels sprouts

    Brussels Brexit sprouts from 1st November (All Sprouts Day) will provide choline for vegans and spleen for remainers and outrage mongers.

    Hooray.

  11. Dennis, He Who Calls Out Bullshit

    I am not a vegan but I don’t think the breast milk thing is a “gotcha” moment, their argument about that is pretty coherent.

    Really? Where is the informed consent from the plants they eat? Plants are living organisms, just as cows are. What’s the distinction between the two that makes informed consent necessary from a cow but not a stalk of corn?

  12. Not a gotcha moment.

    Just an indication that we are not designed to be vegan.

    Infomed consent indicates a political not biological question

  13. Excavator Man

    “Was it something about DocBud’s lyrics that switched the conversation to breast feeding?”

    I confess to experiencing a huge sense of disappointment when I learned that Dolly Parton has had at least one t1t job

  14. I’d like to suck from dear Dolly Parton
    Breast milk in pints and not by the carton
    But wait – are they fake?
    Surely some mistake –
    It was something I’d set my heart on!

  15. I thought currently “we” were all aghast at the prospect of Boris force-feeding us chorine with out chicken. Now Lefty Health Experts are *recommending* we be force-fed chorine?

  16. @Dennis

    To be fair even ardent meat-eaters, hunters, butchers and so on would almost unanimously sign up to animals (at least mammals, not sure they’d be sold on bees…) having certain ethical interests that fungi and plants do not, for example minimum welfare standards and laws against animal cruelty. Vegans go further in terms of what treatment of animals they regard as unacceptable – any system they view as “exploitative”, basically – but as @bilbaoboy says that’s essentially a political point about how our economy and society should be organised and the manner in which it relates to animals.

    @witchie

    I laughed at that. Thanks.

    @jgh

    Presume you’re joking but if not that’s chlorine vs choline.

  17. Bloke in North Dorset

    Don’t laugh, its not funny and it will be a sign that you are a bad person ….

    A popular vegan vlogger, known for her years of praising a raw vegan diet, has come clean about eating animal products after video was taken of her eating fish at a restaurant, according to other YouTubers.

    The YouTuber and lifestyle guru, who goes by Rawvana, has been hosting a Spanish and English vegan vlog for the past six years – touting veganism as the cure all to many ailments, such as alcoholism and poor sleep, and claiming the plant-based diet “completely changed” her life.

    However, recently, the star was forced to open up about her secret addition of eggs and fish into her diet, a move she said she made two months ago due to complicated health problems.

    In the 33-minute video, Rawvana, whose real name is Yovana Mendoza Ayres, apologized to her viewers for the recent break in her diet, and then launched into her entire history of veganism before going on to divulge her many health problems.

    In the emotional video, the 29-year-old brought up her 25-day water fast, which at first left her feeling “on top of the world,” explaining how she lost her period for two years immediately following the nearly month-long period of time where she “only drank water.” She also revealed she was borderline anemic, and her hormone levels were pre-menopausal.

  18. 192g lentils has 185mg of choline
    192g beef brisket has 142mg of choline

    Obviously these guys are grabbing at straws here. Beans and nuts have similar amounts as lentils, and other vegetables and fruits and grains all have some which adds up.

    Theyre just relying on people like you to not do research and keep giving them money to slaughter animals when people dont need to to survive.

  19. Bloke in North Dorset

    Theyre lying

    192g lentils has 185mg of choline
    192g beef brisket has 142mg of choline

    Obviously these guys are grabbing at straws here. Beans and nuts have similar amounts as lentils, and other vegetables and fruits and grains all have some which adds up.

    Theyre just relying on people like you to not do research and keep giving them money to slaughter animals when people dont need to to survive.

    I don’t know about choline, but if protein is anything to go by just because its in a food it doesn’t mean the body gets to use it:

    “eat beans instead of beef”

    Beans are useless to humans. Just because something has protein in it, doesn’t mean you’re getting any of it.

  20. @myburningears

    “To be fair even ardent meat-eaters, hunters, butchers and so on would almost unanimously sign up to animals (at least mammals, not sure they’d be sold on bees…) having certain ethical interests that fungi and plants do not, for example minimum welfare standards and laws against animal cruelty.”

    Well yes… As anyone informed about raising living things for food will tell you: It tastes better if you take care of them.
    Same goes for eventually killing them: you want that to be as quickly and painlessly as possible.

    There may be ethical aspects about the semi-sentient lifeforms, but the basic principle is: good treatment = good food.

  21. Bloke in North Dorset

    Grikath,

    Well yes… As anyone informed about raising living things for food will tell you: It tastes better if you take care of them.
    Same goes for eventually killing them: you want that to be as quickly and painlessly as possible.

    I’ve no idea if this is true and don’t want the distress of researching it, but it when I worked in Korea I was told that a dog has to be beaten to death to get tenderise the meat. And to the best of my knowledge I didn’t eat it.

  22. “If people can make a dish out of pork whiskers…Who gets the pork?” as sir PTerry had Cohen the Barbarian muse…he

    Afaik the meat of any running animal ( including rabbits, horses, goats and dogs) would be stringy as hell because of the muscle build.
    Beating the meat to tenderise it is an ancient method practiced throughout the world.
    Trust some inbred asians to come up with the notion this should be done while the animal is still alive….

  23. @Grikath

    Not just about the food, at least in the UK there is animal welfare legislation pertaining to the treatment of your own pets, but also wildlife. Aside from deliberate cruelty, you can face legal action if you hit an animal in a road collision, decide it needs putting out of its misery, but use an ineffective or inhumane method to do so.

    I suspect a lot of the modern animal rights, vegetarian and vegan movement is a continuation under different banners of the anti-vivisection movement, which was a surprisingly popular cause both among the general public and the political elite in the Victorian era and early 20th century.

    http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_Dog_affair

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