From a random PR email

I hope you are well this afternoon?

I wanted to get in touch with recent findings from CABA, the charity supporting the wellbeing of chartered accountants and their families who found have that more than half (53%) of accountants agreed that ‘accountancy will always be considered an elite profession’.

Can’t Ritchie just apply for a hardship grant from these people rather than attempting to build Musso’s dream in our green and pleasant land?

And who thought there would be a charity to support hard pressed accountants – and limited to chartered ones at that?

24 thoughts on “From a random PR email”

  1. I’m not sure if Ritchie ‘s hustling is driven by hardship or pure egotism. If the former I’d like to know what he has been spending his money on. As a 60 year old accountant who has had a good professional income for most of his career and presumably got on to the property ladder in the 1980s he should be enjoying a very comfortable retirement.

    And I suspect CABA would ask detailed questions about Ritchie’s finances if he applied to them. Hence he’s sticking to the fake charities and university non-jobs.

  2. @sam jones – i believe he is driven as much by the need for fame and recognition as money.He had his 15 minutes of fame with corbynomics – but of course he over reached himself demanding a peerage and falling out with McDonnell (who could have forseen him falling out with anyone) Since then we’ve seen his attempts at sucking up to the Scot nats and now he’s hitched his wagon to the green lobby. Being given the rank of pretend professor is not enough for his raging ego though i bet he answers the phone “professor murphy here” and keeps a scrap book of all his appearances in the press both in paper form and online. His sucking up to the EU doesn’t really count – he’s paid to do this (prior to being paid he was a critic of the EU) and they don’t give out gongs – just well paid sinecures. If they offered him a job in Brussels he’d just become another faceless bureaucrat. No doubt if nothing comes from the greens , he’ll be using his Irish passport to start sniffing Varadkars arse.

  3. In the 1990s the Job Centre sent me on a 3-day business accountancy course. When I started making more-than-dole money I took my first self-assessment forms to a friend who was an accountant. He told me I’d done everything perfectly correctly, keep doing it just the same, and don’t mess about paying him or anybody else to do them.

  4. If accountancy is an elite profession, which would imply that there are few of them, they are in demand, so are paid well, then what do they need with a charity to support them?

  5. Aganemnon, people, even accountants, fall on hard times, get sick, get sacked or made redundant etc. A benevolent fund contributed to by accountants and their governing body seems like a sensible thing to set up. In some occupations, there are unions or friendly societies that do the same thing.

  6. “more than half (53%) of accountants agreed that ‘accountancy will always be considered an elite profession’.”

    So elite that it’s necessary to tell them that 53% is more than a half.

  7. Note this is the Chartered lot, there are other qualifications that have a wider range of definitions for accountant (accounting technician being a fun one) or shades of qualification. Of course being jumped up new organisations they don’t count the same as the Chartered bunch who are the ‘elite’ accountants

  8. more than half (53%) of accountants agreed that ‘accountancy will always be considered an elite profession’.

    Surely in Modern Britain™ the beliefs of the 47% should take precedence?

  9. This strikes me as low earning people bitching about accountants. Why bitch about people who try to maximise your earnings?

  10. @diogenes
    Yes a lot of the other associations now have charter status certainly all the main ones, but it used the be that only one group refers to themselves as chartered accountants.
    I did like the change to Chartered Certified for the ACCA

  11. In the UK, chartered titles may still only be awarded by institutions that have been incorporated under Royal Charter, with the permission of the Privy Council.

    At one time I know that it was being considered that HMIT – as was – were considering getting chartered status for full tech trained Tax Inspectors. Nothing came of it.

    Just as there are different kinds of accountant so there are different Tax Inspectors. The less formally trained ones like Management and employment status inspectors and the fully trained ones. Around 2 1/2 years of training and 2 sets of exams with a 70% pass score required. 1 day a week at the London training centre and 10 hours a week study time in district. Basically 50% of your time was spent studying. Not something a firm of accountants could subsidise. It’s why tax Inspectors know more about tax than accountants, especially twats like Murphy who never worked in a firm big enough for him to specialise in tax. Instead he specialised in being a twat. Which he is very good at. I wonder if Chartered Twat status exists.

  12. Tim is a socialist
    “And who thought there would be a charity to support hard pressed accountants”

    Who set up the charity?
    There are times when you really do not think things through

  13. Accountants of the world, refrain from providing services to Tim Worstall, on the grounds that he hates accountants for reasons not clearly stated

  14. The reason is that accountants have set up a charity for accountants who have fallen upon hard times. Somehow this contravenes his economic principles

  15. Andrew C, yes it is tough keeping up with the world of tax. An accountant also has to keep up with the ever changing accounting scene. Most of us need a multi disciplinary system just to keep track, Andy these systems can be semi formal but… Sometimes experts have to say, “you need another expert”. That’s where networks are handy. But you also have to admit that people burn out or break down, which is why we have benevolent societies. It puzzles me that Tim does not want to recognise this.

  16. @Diogenes

    I agree. While some accountants end up on 6 and 7 figure salaries, there are plenty who humble along on much much less. Maybe academically ok but perhaps lacking business sense or the ability to develop business relationships. There are those who never get past manager, or end up as one man bands. Add physical or mental health problems to the mix and it’s quite possible to hit the 50s or 60s in age and realise your career never got going.

    I expect there are charities for other professionals. Heck, there are charities helping ex professional footballers.

    It can happen to anyone. That’s why charities like that are so much better than relying on the state. More direct, more targeted, more personal.

  17. There are a multiplicity of charities to help people who have fallen on hard times.
    Brief digression – Friendly Societies, despite being admirable, are NOT charities as they only help their own members.
    I, much too frequently, get letters from charities asking me to donate to worthy aims and/or sob stories – so many that most have to go straight in the bin without even reading them since my last name is not Rothschild or Grosvenor or Cavendish. Once every couple of years I get one letter inviting me to apply to the “Insurance Charities” if I have fallen on hard times.
    If there is a charity for insurance workers why should there not be a charity for the intellectually inferior (sometimes very inferior) chartered accountants? [I trust that BraveFart will agree that Murphy is not the only ACA/FCA who is intellectually very inferior]. Two local Accountants are friends – the elder was, until he retired therefrom, a better runner than I (and his second wife was better still) living in a former “mansion” with all his children, the other played Goalkeeper into his fifties until he had a heart attack, living in pleasant but modest house in another village with 3 teenage children; he did recover but he could easily have needed the Chartered Accountants’ charity if the doctors had made a minor mistake.

  18. “Diogenes
    September 12, 2019 at 9:59 pm

    Aganemnon (cowardly, cuckolded King in Trojan Wars, killed by wife) aren’t you the one in need of charity”

    Are you talking to me?

    Because my name is Agammamon. Not Agamemnon. Its not even a variant spelling.

    And no, not particularly. But if you want to send some money round I won’t say no.

  19. “Andrew C
    September 13, 2019 at 7:02 am

    I agree. While some accountants end up on 6 and 7 figure salaries, there are plenty who humble along on much much less.”

    So, you’re saying accountancy *isn’t* an elite profession – its a profession just like any other. And that accounts might want to band together in a self-support group, just without all the smoke being blown up their arses that this email opens with?

    Because I wouldn’t trust a professional group that sends communications written like that. It screams scam to me.

  20. …especially twats like Murphy who never worked in a firm big enough for him to specialise in tax.

    I thought the Murphster articled at KPMG – they could have trained him for tax, but obviously realized that he was not bright enough for it.

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