Idiot

Boris and Donald: two leaders afraid to do the hard work of running a country
Richard Wolffe

BoJo is at least attempting to have the power – by taking it back from Brussels – to be able to run a country.

68 thoughts on “Idiot”

  1. “ACTUALLY, bigots, our years of using Russian conspiracy theories, unrelenting lawfare and a weaponised Deep State to stop the public getting what it voted for means you’re lazy! 🙂 :-)”

  2. Now, most people might think Richard Wolffe (why the redundant f?) is a shameless liar, which he is, but that’s missing the point.

    Bog standard Billy Liars know, on some level, that they’re telling porkies.

    As we’ve found out since 2016, these people – let’s call them “liberals” for want of a better term – are incorrigible fantasists whose sweaty, palpitating brains conjure up endless nightmarish phantasms which cause them more pain and distress than it does the reader.

    So yes, Louise Mensch is a lunatic and Carole Cadwalladr is proof that sending them to sanitariums for hysteria was a sensible idea. But they sincerely believe their own bullshit when they say it, and when a completely contradictory tale of the unexpected dribbles forth from their latte-hole not five minutes later they’ll believe that too.

    Therefore Trump is a lazy Hitler who is literally turning America into a fascist concentration camp while achieving nothing.

    Boris is a literal dictator who is destroying our democracy by trying to hold elections, and Brexit is all a terrifying grand Putinesque conspiracy that nobody actually wants yet is responsible for turning everyone in Britain including your gran into a skinhead.

    Never mind that though, mind this:

    We need your support to keep delivering quality journalism, to maintain our openness and to protect our precious independence. Every reader contribution, big or small, is so valuable. Support The Guardian from as little as £1 – and it only takes a minute. Thank you.

  3. I don’t understand all this “we want £1 from our readers”. You get that by handing it over to the newsagent in return for a pile of newsprint. If your per-item price isn’t enough to cover per-item costs, go back to primary school sums, raise your per-item price. Income 19 shillings, etc.

  4. “We need your support to keep delivering quality journalism, to maintain our openness and to protect our precious independence. Every reader contribution, big or small, is so valuable. Support The Guardian from as little as £1 – and it only takes a minute. Thank you.”

    Anyone cretinous enough to consider giving the Guardian a bung should take a pause and simply remember that this will held to fund the insane, censorious and illiberal agitprop and very comfortable lifestyles of the likes of Jones, Toynbee, Monbiot etc.

  5. “After years of feigned effort, neither of the so-called populist powers can deliver on any of their promises”

    Therefore it follows that people are better off being led by intelligent woke sensitive types like myself…

  6. The fact that they cannot deliver on their promises PROVES they have grabbed all the power, like the Hitlers that they are.

  7. ‘leaders afraid to do the hard work of running a country’

    Cos government should run a country. Not the people, the government.

    Wolffe, speaking for Pravda West, wants dictators.

  8. jgh said:
    “I don’t understand all this “we want £1 from our readers”. You get that by handing it over to the newsagent in return for a pile of newsprint.”

    I assume this is on the online version?

    They could of course charge to view, but presumably their desire for money is conflicting with their desire (narcissistic or political) to have as many people read their poisonous drivel.

  9. Steve,

    Carole knows she’s lying. She keeps on piling on about Arron Banks suing her, how it’s terribly unfair and he should be suing the Guardian instead, chilling effects etc. That says to me that she’s not got anything that can stand up in a court of law and she knows it.

    Professor Vernon Bogdanor did an interesting interview the other day where he said that the problem with the liberal elite is that they aren’t used to losing, and they don’t like losing. I think this is spot on. We’ve had about 25-30 years of the establishment being the liberals. They’ve seen changes of parties and prime ministers, a few ups and downs, but essentially, they’ve run things.

    Brexit has shook them, because that wasn’t in the script. They knew they’d sometimes lose to the Conservatives, sometimes see a slight reduction in the speed of travel to communism, but a bomb put under one of their hallowed institutions wasn’t in the script. Rather than taking a hard look at the new world, and accepting it, they’ve gone off into this lala land of conspiracies and bullshit.

  10. BraveFart @ September 6, 2019 at 10:59 am: “Anyone cretinous enough to consider giving the Guardian a bung should take a pause and simply remember that this will held to fund the insane, censorious and illiberal agitprop and very comfortable lifestyles of the likes of Jones, Toynbee, Monbiot etc.”

    Steady on Bravefart, don’t encourage them! 😉

  11. In its latest financial results GMG said the begging was going OK, which doesn’t surprise me. I think Graunistas are more likely to fall for begging. Remember that Laurie Penny earns a decent living from Patreon donations alone.

    Also, with a £1 billion endowment, I am afraid to say the Graun could go on for years.

  12. I don’t understand all this “we want £1 from our readers”. You get that by handing it over to the newsagent in return for a pile of newsprint.

    And then the shopkeeper wrestles you to the ground and calls the police. The Guardian is an eye-watering £2.20 now, £3.20 on Saturday.

  13. Agreed, BoM4. The Guardian is used to having it’s hand up the back of politicians. It’s not just liberal politicians having their way, but the Guardian having its way. It’s often unclear who is in charge, the politicians or the Guardian.

    Same in America. Trump doesn’t respond to the legacy press’s demands, even mocks them. But the Left has nothing but their tattered play book, so they keep trying things that used to work. Leaving them looking just silly.

    Following the Constitution is “destroying the Constitution.”

    Brexit is a blow to democracy.

  14. Has richard wolfe ever written an article that’s not a sneering attack on Trump? I read elsewhere that the obamas are claiming that they worked 24/7 when obama was president. Quite why the he woman thinks as an unelected spouse she had to work as well is not explained. After working 24/7 for 8 years the US seems to be in a worse place than when they started. Who cares if Trump is lazy – the question is the US moving in the right direction? He’s the chief executive and hires people to do the graft – you don’t expect to see the chief executive of British Gas (say) installing gas pipes.
    As for the attack on Boris he’s just joining in the GuardiansBoris deraingment syndrome.
    The Guardian is kept afloat as a print edition by the BBC buying 50% of each print run. Privatise the BBC and the Guardian print is gone.

  15. As I understand it, the whole point behind the donations scam is that donations are non – taxable. I can’t see it working with our plumber, but then he’s not a Labour supporter.

  16. I have always thought that the creation of the position” Fuhrer ” and the decision to ignore the Versaille Treaty both of which were overwhelmingly backed by referendums just goes to show what great thing referendums are . International slaughter on a hitherto unknown level ..yay!
    Bit of a sad day for you today Tim , as you know John Redwood et all are telling us we should simply not repay the QE cash to the B of E ie adopt the Mugabe approach to the economy. Your big spending chums love a debt don`t they …

    Now this is one difference between a Conservative and fat race hate mongering baby man with stupid hair
    Sound money; what happened to tat bit ?

    BTW
    You do not, by joining a club, become a slave .
    Not that is unless it is the sort of perverted club joined by Berlosconi another sodomising fat fucker you probably love to bits ..and that is not a real slave .
    Otherwise you are still a free agent ….

  17. Some people examine the.facts, listen to arguments and then form an opinion -a continuous and time consuming process. Others adopt the opinion of whoever they regard as high status- schoolteacher, lecturer etc. and adopt that opinion as a means of bolstering their own status. This method also saves a lot of time.
    The latter sort can usually be told by the unfounded nature of the facts quoted.
    Even more apparent are their appeals to authority, and use of as hominem, this latter in an attempt to lower the status of others and thereby enhance their own and their heroes.
    I’m short they are obsessed with status to the exclusion of all else.

  18. Dennis The Erudite 'n' Insightful

    What’s most interesting about Wolffe’s screed is just how dated it seems. Trump Derangement Syndrome still rages in the chattering classes – of which Wolffe is a member – but just about everywhere else it has played itself out. For good or bad, folks have come to understand and accept Trump for what he is and – more importantly – what he is not.

    Wolffe’s real complaint isn’t that Trump hasn’t done enough, it’s that what he has done has effectively undermined an existing political order. That is the cardinal sin in Wolffe’s eyes. Trump has challenged China, North Korea, NATO and Mexico in order to bring the USA’s relationship with each more in line with the USA’s political and economic interests. For those of Wolffe’s ilk, having your country take measures to protect the interests of its citizenry is an unpardonable act of bad taste.

    In the final analysis, Wolffe is put out because the EU and China won’t be running things as long as Trump and Johnson are around.

  19. Dennis, He Who Calls Out Bullshit

    Newmania –

    The only interesting thing about your posts is that they read about the same whether you’re coherent or not.

  20. Newmania. Just go away & read some German history, like a good boy.Then come back & we’ll test you on it.

  21. Oh and before you come back, brush up on the spelling of Italian proper names too, like a good chap.

    Great post otherwise: lots of zip!

  22. Getting to you isn’t it Facepainter.

    Your gang are jizzing their pants and jazz handing about their “triumph” but the increasingly confused and childish race-baiting level of self-hatred you display denotes a very worried man.

    Your gang seem to have Brexit on the ropes but you know every move they make is only cheered by an increasingly small minority of cunts like you. Everyone is increasingly seeing just what a pack of cunts you really are. As well as seeing how your Globo elite mates and their ordinary-people-flopped-lower than-whaleshit future is trying to play out.

    People are seeing how your fuck EU masters work into the taking of little peoples cars and how they want us eating fucking insects. They see the Green-shite Deal trash stateside trying to hide behind hot air their plans to take over EVERY area of EVERY (non-elite) life to make their shite plan “work”. Which they won’t anyway.

    You know that all your scummy dreams are walking on a thin-eggshell floor over an abyss. Where full public knowledge of the dirty schemes of your masters really kicks off trouble for you.

    A few examples–for everyone else–you can fuck off Facepaint.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GACUjXOPfyE&t=198s

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDjuoBAtLWA

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIT8FRcbf9g

  23. “the creation of the position” Fuhrer ” and the decision to ignore the Versaille Treaty both of which were overwhelmingly backed by referendums”

    We need a new word to define the level of untruth contained in this string of words. Any ideas?

  24. “We need a new word to define the level of untruth contained in this string of words. Any ideas?”

    Leftspeak – any old shit I make up to fit the argument I’m making at this precise moment. Not to be compared with anything I might say tomorrow or indeed a few minutes later, because that might be a different argument requiring different ‘facts’. Any resemblance to the truth is entirely accidental.

  25. I have always thought that the creation of the position” Fuhrer ” and the decision to ignore the Versaille Treaty both of which were overwhelmingly backed by referendums just goes to show what great thing referendums are.

    Rather, it shows what a great idea it is to subject a country to the whims of an unaccountable internationalist elite with an agenda opposed to the nation’s interests. Who’d have thought there might be consequences to bottling up that kind of oppression.

    Let’s do it to a whole fucking continent! What could go wrong?

  26. Which bit are you disagreeing with Diogenes , I am talking about the ” ‘Law against the Enslavement of the German People’ 1929 and the 1934 referendum ?

  27. Back so soon – you’ve checked Berlusconi so now how about having another look at Versailles with a terminal ‘S’?

    For such a big fan of the EU you’re not performing to well on funny foreign names and it may be timely to consider whether your postings are not so much full of zip but that you are akin to what may be found behind one.

  28. PJF +1000

    Newmania – I see John Redwood kindly published your latest prediction that Boris Johnson will win 350 seats (you should thank Sir John and apologise for your earlier allegations).

    Is that why you’re pants-shittingly angry and sputtering about Hitler? 🙂

  29. Dennis – Another thing that’s pissing on lefty chips both sides of the Atlantic is that Brexit (it’s coming home) sets up future win-win situations for Trump and Britain Trump.

    Not just the big, beautiful trade deal, but also a realignment of British foreign policy to be more pro-American. The predictable fiasco of Britain’s attempts to put together a European task force to protect shipping in the Gulf is a reminder that the USA is still the Daddy of power projection, while the Euros are that skinny dork who gets sand kicked in his face at the beach and can’t do anything about it.

    It’s not looking good for the proponents of effete Obamaite multilateralism.

  30. This is confusing.

    Re enslavement of German people, wiki says that it failed:

    “A referendum was held in Germany on 22 December 1929.[1] It was a failed attempt to introduce a ‘Law against the Enslavement of the German People’. The legislation, proposed by German nationalists, would formally renounce the Treaty of Versailles and make it a criminal offence for German officials to co-operate in the collecting of reparations. Although it was approved by 94.5% of those who voted, voter turnout was just 14.9%, well below the 50% necessary for it to pass.”

    About becoming Fuehrer, wiki is silent on any referendum
    “On 2 August 1934, Hindenburg died. The previous day, the cabinet had enacted the “Law Concerning the Highest State Office of the Reich”. This law stated that upon Hindenburg’s death, the office of president would be abolished and its powers merged with those of the chancellor. Hitler thus became head of state as well as head of government, and was formally named as Führer und Reichskanzler (leader and chancellor), although Reichskanzler was eventually quietly dropped. With this action, Hitler eliminated the last legal remedy by which he could be removed from office.

    I believe that Germany just withdrew from the Versailles Treaty but Ian Kershaw talks about a referendum to get out of the League of Nations, perhaps this is what you meant :

    “The (Disarmament) Conference was already on the way to arguing itself into oblivion when Hitler, fully in line with the wishes of the German army leadership and Foreign Office, seized the moment to withdraw Germany both from the Conference and from the League itself on 14 October 1933. With his unerring eye for a propaganda coup, he did not miss the chance to follow up the withdrawal with a plebiscite that brought him an official 95 per cent vote of support for his move, greatly strengthening his standing among the German people.”

  31. In fact, on the very next page, Kershaw describes how Hitler withdrew from the Versailles Treaty, by simply ignoring it. No mention of a referendum

    “In March 1935 Hitler felt confident enough to announce the creation of a new and large Wehrmacht of thirty-six divisions (about 550,000 men), and the reintroduction of general military service. The existence of a German air force – already as large, Hitler claimed (with notable exaggeration), as Britain’s – was also made public. Both steps were in plain defiance of the Versailles Treaty”

  32. In Leftspeak it is simply….

    Hitler……….referendum…… Hitler bad, referendum bad.

    Boris…….referendum……..Brexit………Brexit bad.

    Boris = Hitler.

    And “Toff”.

  33. Steve

    “So yes, Louise Mensch is a lunatic and Carole Cadwalladr is proof that sending them to sanitariums for hysteria was a sensible idea.”

    Yes, women of a certain age…

    As for the donations, I believe the Guardian is actually doing quite well out of it. So, is feeding the liberal hysteria and confirming their neurotic fantasies nothing more that a profitable business model.

    Perhaps there is a gap for a paper on the economics of hysterical post-wall women and the media?

  34. jgh

    “I don’t understand all this “we want £1 from our readers”. You get that by handing it over to the newsagent in return for a pile of newsprint. If your per-item price isn’t enough to cover per-item costs, go back to primary school sums, raise your per-item price. Income 19 shillings, etc.”

    Think about it this way;

    Liberalism is a religion
    The Guardian is the bible
    Opinion writers are the priests
    Donations are alms, proof of the readers virtue, regardless of how they actually behave.

    By simply setting a price per-paper, your revenue is capped at how many papers you print. If you can get people handing over money based on their guilt/hysteria, you revenue is far less limited.

  35. moqifen
    “I read elsewhere that the obamas are claiming that they worked 24/7 when obama was president. Quite why the he woman thinks as an unelected spouse she had to work as well is not explained. After working 24/7 for 8 years the US seems to be in a worse place than when they started.”

    But the Obama’s are very significantly better off.

    Obama did work 24/7, almost entirely on fundraising. Trump achieves more fundraising with a single tweet than the Obama’s did in months of campaigning.

  36. Assuming there will still be a Queens Speech is the convention that losing the vote on that is equivalent to a vote of no confidence?
    If so does that mean that opposition may be forced to vote for it if they don’t want to trigger the no-confidence/GE scenario before the end of October?

  37. I’ve been pondering on the implicit question lying behind Newmania’s original post.
    “Would I wish to live in a country could elect a Hitler?”

    Undoubtedly, I would. A country could elect a Hitler is very unlikely to do so.
    Because you have to go back to German history. Hitler was a product of the years after WW1 & a Germany humiliated after its defeat. And by the terms of the Versailles Treaty. But you have to look back before 1914 & the democratic deficit in a German Empire with a militaristic Prussia at its core.
    And the parallels today. You have a German dominated EU with its governing body totally isolated from democratic control. A few deals in smoke-free rooms could see the next but one president of the commissioners using a European Army anywhere he liked. Just because it’s a joke now doesn’t mean it always will be.
    Or a UK, humiliated by its failure to separate from The EU, could get itself a leader willing to do it the hard way. UK nuclear capability could produce a radioactive crater in Berlin or Brussels in response to EU reluctance to let it go.
    Want that sort of future, Newmania?

  38. Seem to recall lots of photo opportunities showing Obama playing golf, though I suppose that could be ‘working’, does having a state dinner with the Queen count as ‘working’?
    What about a family meal? What if your family are at the state dinner?
    What about inviting the winning college sports team of whatever league to the White House?
    Did they not sleep once in 8 years? Not attend a single school or other event for their kids?
    Did the kids work, isn’t child Labour illegal? And if Michelle was ‘unpaid’ then surely she should sue under the relevant minimum wage legislation or even bring a case for ‘modern slavery’.
    I’d guess based on their definition of work that Trump and every other president worked just as hard as them.

  39. Nobel Prize an award to him personally not to the office of President so was he working when he accepted it?
    He donated the prize money to charity though as one of the main benefactors was the Clinton trust it may well be the more political definition of donated than the altruistic version

  40. I think it highly likely we’ll see a vote of no confidence soon after parliament resumes on Oct 14th, with a pre-planned caretaker government forming a majority. The Remainers have the votes. The new PM will request the extension and then sell the country out with a “deal”. GE will follow when the shouting dies down.

    The caretaker PM will probably be Kenneth Clarke because it will suit Labour to have a Tory toff type do the sell out.

    Once something called Brexit has been delivered most of the country will lose interest with a sigh of relief. Those still angry will end up politically punishing themselves with a TBP vs Tory punch up.

    It’s possible Boris might try and pre-empt this and sell us out by making a deal himself. But probably not because he’ll know he’ll be politically dead in a ditch soon after anyway.

  41. David – Funny how attractive women tend to be right wing.

    BniC – Obama is a lazy grifter, but to be fair to him, he was infinitely better than a hardworking sociopath like Hillary Clinton. If Obama and then Trump hadn’t kept the witch out of the White House, the USA would probably have gotten into atomic war with Russia.

    BiS – It’s amazingly boring how Hitler, who has been dead for the best part of a century, is still the go-to bogeyman for both the Left and Right. It’s like how Millennials won’t shut the fuck up about Harry Smegging Potter.

    Mid 20th century German autism isn’t coming back, it’s deader than disco or the singing career of Gary Glitter.

    I don’t think there are any worthwhile parallels to be drawn with the Third Reich, it’s no more likely to happen again than the War of Jenkins’ Ear.

    Astonishing how we’re still drawing toothbrush moustaches on people tho. Bush was Hitler, Obama was Hitler, Saddam was Brown Hitler, the State of Israel is Kosher Hitler, Slobodan Milosevic was tracksuit Hitler, Trump is Orange Hitler, Boris and Corbyn are Britlers, Bolsonaro is Carmen Hitlanda. It’s raining Hitlers, as the Weathergirls didn’t sing, a veritable heilstorm of em.

    Whenever I hear the word ‘Hitler’ I reach for my gun (in Wolfenstein 3D). Spike Milligan did nothing wrong.

  42. PJF – Nah, Corbyn can’t allow Ken Clarke to be PM, even temporarily. It’d kill his chances of ever being PM. And I reckon the only “deal” possible would still be the WA, which is politically radioactive.

    I’m not one of those chaps who thinks Dom Cummings is a Geordie Prester John, but I do reckon you’ll see the government make its own moves soon (possibly Monday).

  43. “By simply setting a price per-paper, your revenue is capped at how many papers you print. If you can get people handing over money based on their guilt/hysteria, you revenue is far less limited.”

    You seem unaware of the business model of periodicals. The money is in advertising, not circulation. You are not the customer; you are the product.

  44. @Steve
    “I don’t think there are any worthwhile parallels to be drawn with the Third Reich, ”

    You don’t?
    In Brussels you have the makings of a totalitarian state with scant democratic control. Just because its currently run by a bunch of incompetents doesn’t mean it always will be.

    And in Westminster you have a bunch of MPs in the process of dismantling parliamentary democracy piece by piece

  45. BiS – Candidly, I do not.

    The things that made the Nazis distinctly Nazi (militaristic expansionism, racial mysticism, cult of The Leader, genocidal Jew-hate and whatnot) don’t exist in contemporary Western politics and nobody wants them back.

    If we boil the brownshirts down to “anyone who’s a bit authoritarian or antidemocratic”, I reckon that’s too reductive by half. These tendencies predate mid-20th c. Mitteleuropa by several millenia and have nothing to do with Wagner.

    I think Gorbachev was closer to the mark (still not bang on) by describing the EU as the all-female reboot of the USSR nobody asked for, and the globalist games in SW1 bear no useful comparison to Herr Hilter.

    The dystopian arc of Current Year bends towards a certain strain of toxic materialist hyper-individualism in the context of anarcho-tyrannical therapeutic government and a techno-homo-panopticon apparatus of soft social control overseen by billionaire spergs and bindi programmers. Think BLADE RUNNER with custom trigender pansexual skinjobs hawking carbon-offset iDildos to a deracinated mass of extremely online mouth-breathing carb guzzlers who don’t even lift, not blond guys in tight leather shorts. KnowhatImean?

  46. “The dystopian arc of Current Year bends towards a certain strain of toxic materialist hyper-individualism in the context of anarcho-tyrannical therapeutic government and a techno-homo-panopticon apparatus of soft social control overseen by billionaire spergs and bindi programmers. Think BLADE RUNNER with custom trigender pansexual skinjobs hawking carbon-offset iDildos to a deracinated mass of extremely online mouth-breathing carb guzzlers who don’t even lift, not blond guys in tight leather shorts. KnowhatImean?”

    All hail Steve

  47. ‘The things that made the Nazis distinctly Nazi . . . don’t exist in contemporary Western politics’

    Completely wrong. 21st century Leftists DEMONIZE their opposition. You aren’t just wrong, you are EVIL. And when your opposition is evil, anything is justified.

    They lie about anything and everything. Because you are evil.

    Nazis are fascists who demonize their opposition. It’s what separated Italian fascists from German fascists.

    The modern day Democrat Party are Nazis. It really is that simple. They believe in strong, autocratic central control of a private economy,* and they consider Republicans/conservatives as evil. Which explains their derangement. EVIL is taking over the world!!!

    So riddle me this, Batman: How can you have democracy when one side thinks the other is evil, and won’t accept any outcome where the opposition wins?

    *Though they wouldn’t mind going to a government economy.

  48. “Completely wrong. 21st century Leftists DEMONIZE their opposition. You aren’t just wrong, you are EVIL. And when your opposition is evil, anything is justified.”

    Combine increasing anti-white hysterical demonisatiopn and the every increasing minoritisation of the US and you are creating one hell of a pressure cooker.

    Its almost as if there are people out there, obsessed with seeing Hitler everywhere, that want to do white people harm and eliminate white western nations.

    Who could that be?

  49. ‘Increasing minoritisation’ doesn’t have to be a problem. No assimilation is where the problem is. Loving George Washington and the Constitution is for everyone. Freedom and liberty are just as good for Hindus as for white Europeans.

  50. Steve:…but I do reckon you’ll see the government make its own moves soon (possibly Monday).

    I was hoping for some optimism but it’s always better garnished with a fact or two. But I suppose just because I can’t see a move doesn’t mean there isn’t one.

    And I reckon the only “deal” possible would still be the WA, which is politically radioactive.

    The Remainers seem to have given up caring about political fallout. See: this week.

  51. BniC – Groovy!

    Revelation – The Eternal Boomer?

    Gamecock – No, no no! I’m sorry, but this is Shapiro-tier rhetoric, the equivalent of tickling your mortal enemies with a wiffle bat (of FACTS and LOGIC)

    No, calling Democrats “nazis” or whatever does nothing to convince anyone of anything, it just makes them laugh at you. It’s woefully bad, clapped-out, toothless, dumb sloganeering reminiscent of poorly spelled, gramatically exceptional Minion memes shared by THAT UNCLE WHO TYPE’S IN ALL CAP’S ON THE FACEBOOK CAN I GET AN AMEN?

    Don’t waste time trying to convince people AOC is THE REAL Nazi, like ‘fetch’ it’s not gunna happen.

    And no, 99.7% of Dirty Sanchezes, Hottentots, pygmy negritos, Canadians, Chinamen and other funny little foreigners don’t give an ant’s queef for your Constitution, or your Bill of Rights, or your Federalist Papers. The only things they like about your country are your money and your women. They can no more sustain American civilisation than the talking chimps did in that Charlton Heston film.

    The Founding Fathers were all racists and so is the overwhelming majority of contemporary humanity except naive white people.

  52. PJF – the fact is, Boris is still the PM, the opposition is still divided, BoJo still says he won’t ask for an extension.

    So why depress yourself worrying?

    Be Not Afraid, we were told by the Redeemer. Christ Almighty, even if you don’t believe in the Son of Man, is that not good advice? Are we fretting old women? Or are we men of good cheer?

  53. Be Not Afraid, we were told by the Redeemer.

    For a moment there I thought you were talking about Jacob Rees Mogg, who frequently tells us that all will be well. I think you both use the same Backstop.

    You should bear in mind that JC’s message of hope (jam Tomorrow) was based in dealing with the inevitable catastrophe of this world.

    But it’s always a laugh when you’re around.

  54. PJF–Again–not to make them out saints or owt– but BoJo, Mogg and DC cannot have gone into this with just pious hopes that Jizz and/or the Limp Dicks would do the decent thing.

    Jizz is known scum de la scum supreme who would do or say anything for a chance to lord over other human beings. The LD cunt brazenly says she only accepts votes she likes. To think that anything other than treachery would be possible from such would be the act of absolute fools.

    ALL the events of the past week were 1000 % predictable from the start. So –if you have nothing–why try knowing all you can get is defeat, humiliation blame and undying hatred?

    Whatever the plan–if all else fails the Civil Contingences WILL cut the mustard. And please no dickheads talking about fantasy or the rule of law. If the EU wins our nation will be abolished and if Jizz gets in you can bet on collapse, tyranny and poverty. Useless as Jizz is he has enough Marxian scum behind him to do the job.

    In the face of that –using the CC Act is trivial.

  55. Steve–Right on.
    Did we give up blubbering when Singapore fell? Or when the Repulse was sunk? At Dunkirk?

    Did we fuck. Nor shall we now.

  56. …but BoJo, Mogg and DC cannot have gone into this with just pious hopes…

    It’s quite possible that it was all a bluff to try and create a new momentum. If it was, it has been called.

    Also possible is that it’s all theatre designed to distract us from Boris doing a slippery behind-the-scenes deal with the EU that can be pulled out of the hat at the last minute and presented as salvation by our conquering hero.

  57. And yes, quite right, we didn’t get through Dunkirk by running away.

    (Singapore didn’t fall, it was handed over)

  58. PJF–Never said Dunkirk wasn’t a retreat . We didn’t give up before, during or after. Good job you weren’t there tho’.

    Singapore was surrendered to avoid loss of civilian life. Anyone knowing the Imperial Japanese Army would know that would make little difference.

  59. Even If BoJo and DC were up for such career-ending moves (being a hero to scum traitors doesn’t cut it )–it is a move which they could have done without expelling a pack of traitors and causing huge bad blood.

    And Mogg–who already humiliated himself swallowing Treason May’s WA to try and save the fucking Tory party–is going to go along with a move that will piss off 80% of the Party’s members? And pretty much end its support because even the supposed patriots and Brexiteers in its top ranks turn out to be EU dick-sucking traitors.

    You are as bad at tactics as you are with morale and overcoming LMF.

  60. “It’s quite possible that it was all a bluff to try and create a new momentum. If it was, it has been called. ”

    Also how was it a bluff? What are they bluffing with? You are saying that they think that ZaNu are stupid enough to call an election to see who will win when ZaNu’s own eyeballs and ears tell them it won’t be ZaNu. Hope you aren’t a poker player then because where’s the bluff in that? “Why don’t you call an election you will likely lose?” is not a bluff.

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