Not so much Bernie

“China is a country that is moving unfortunately in a more authoritarian way in a number of directions,” Sanders told Hill.TV’s Krystal Ball. “But what we have to say about China in fairness to China and it’s leadership is if I’m not mistaken they have made more progress in addressing extreme poverty than any country in the history of civilization, so they’ve done a lot of things for their people.”

The average American is richer than the average Chinee. Therefore America must have done more than China, no?

And a poor Chinee is much worse off than a poor American….

27 thoughts on “Not so much Bernie”

  1. Tsk, Tim – apples and oranges.

    Sanders says China’s policy has brought more out of extreme poverty than evah. And he’s correct. China’s policy was to abandon Sanders’ idiot ideology and adopt capitalism with freeish markets.

  2. @MC

    I doubt they’ve stopped slaughtering their people.

    And I’ve heard this sort of shyte before from the left.

    Yes, Stalin was a bit strict but, hey, tractor production greatly increased so it was worth it.

    Marxists slaughtering millions is swept under the carpet by the left while they are ‘horrified’ at an ‘assault on human rights’ if Trump doesn’t accept that there are 72 different genders.

  3. Growth has been quick but quicker than Japans in its early stage ?
    In 1965, Japan’s nominal GDP was estimated at just over $91 billion. Fifteen years later, in 1980, the nominal GDP had soared to a record $1.065 trillion.

  4. “But what we have to say about China in fairness to China and it’s leadership is if I’m not mistaken they have made more progress in addressing extreme poverty than any country in the history of civilization, so they’ve done a lot of things for their people”

    Debateable, but did they do it by being a Bernie Bros/Owen Jones/Aaron Bastani Fully Shitty Manual Commie, or by at least somewhat getting government out of the way?

  5. I hate this idea that the CCP brought people out of poverty when it was they who were keeping everyone poor in the first place. The Chinese people brought themselves out of poverty. The government simply went from being total cunts to only moderate cunts… have a Nobel Prize!

    Its like I’m holding your head underwater and after a few minutes I let go so you can come up for air. Did I just save your life?

  6. At best he could say they’ve done more in a shorter period. China did in 30 years what the U.S. took maybe 100 years to achieve; though with the advantage that most of the technology had already been invented.

  7. I’m surprised he didn’t go on to mention how they can deliver fresh organs for transplant faster than any other country as a healthcare plus.

  8. God help us if this tool is actually elected President. There’s no way he would achieve anything close to his full program, but just imagine this quality of thinking applied, even if only to the more incremental things he COULD achieve.

  9. I hate this idea that the CCP brought people out of poverty when it was they who were keeping everyone poor in the first place.

    To be fair to the CCP, China has been ruled by such people for millennia and vast numbers have been dirt poor for a similar time. It’s a somewhat brutish, cuntish culture. A natural landing zone for commies (and crony capitalists).

  10. Sanders is incapable of understanding that 100% of what the Chinese government has done to combat poverty has been, literally, nothing. They’ve done nothing. That is what allowed these people to climb out of the pit the Chinese government threw them in in the first place.

  11. “But what we have to say about China in fairness to China and it’s leadership”

    Why would one have a compulsion to be fair to China and their leaders?

    They killed one of my uncles in the Korean War. So what would be fair from me?

    We know they have killed business leaders for “bad” decisions.

    But Bernie says we have to be fair to them.

    BWTM: The Chinese communists killed about 80,000,000 people.

    Bernie says we have to be fair to them.

    And Biden is the Gaffe Machine.

    Should Sanders get the nomination, all Trump will have to do to win is to keep playing Bernie videos.

  12. @PJF, 5:58PM said

    To be fair to the CCP, China has been ruled by such people for millennia and vast numbers have been dirt poor for a similar time. It’s a somewhat brutish, cuntish culture. A natural landing zone for commies (and crony capitalists).

    Here are a few red-pills about China for anyone interested, courtesy of 4chan:
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    Tl;dr – it’s always been an inhumanly cruel shithole.

  13. Bloke in North Dorset

    Oops, that should have been:

    Has the USA ever been as poor as China was at the end of the cultural revolution?

  14. B. Sanders in the running for something.
    I can’t help thinking of Barry Sanders of Detroit Lions fame.
    Then again, I had the same problem thinking that Lance Armstrong was an astonishingly good astronaut.
    Old age – let it get to you, and it’s all right.

  15. Stating that “China is more authoritarian” is rather like the UK “Crashing out of the EU without a deal” or our new “Climate Emergency”, a shibboleth the evidence for which is based almost entirely on how often it is repeated. All three are partisan political statements designed to drive policy. China is so big that you can find evidence to support or contradict almost any argument, but as with the other two issues, this is rarely allowed to be heard because the Globalist narrative needs a bad guy, just as it needs an emergency to demand global government and an excuse to deny democracy.

  16. China is ‘more authoritarian’ than pretty much anywhere and that is a factual not political statement.

    There is no doubt that the US is engaged in a cold war with China in order to maintain its global hegemony. Trash talk will be part of this war.

    However, that does not change the fact that China is ruled by a murderous, authoritarian, corrupt clique of absolute cunts. And said clique is seeking to increase its power over the populace, not allow them more freedom.

  17. No one fucks over Chinese people like other Chinese do.

    There’s absolutely zero courtesy to strangers in China. If you have some form of relationship with someone, even if you’ve just met, they’ll be nice as pie and so polite and courteous.

    However… if you’re a stranger then they don’t give a fuck. They just shit all over each other and accept it as normal. Even though the selfish poor driving in China is magnitudes worse than in civilized countries there’s hardly any road rage because they simply accept they are all cunts. It’s weird.

    Often I find myself thinking they deserve their government.

  18. Fastest out of poverty? Not China.

    South Korea went from where China was in 1950 to Western levels today. Taiwan and Japan similarly from 1945.

    The key was that they lost their authoritarian governments along the way.

    If the CCP Party stays in power, they won’t make it to Western levels like their neighbours. Corruption will flourish too much in a closed system. And some head of state will get a “really good idea” which cannot be turned around.

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