Are giraffes gay?

Seems like an odd claim:

Senior Labour figures have become embroiled in a bizarre gender policy row over whether male giraffes are naturally gay.

The controversy began when Dawn Butler, Labour’s shadow secretary for women and equalities, gave a speech at the Pink News awards defending the teaching of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender issues in schools.

She cited giraffes’ gay behaviour as evidence of how ridiculous the concept was that children could be taught to be gay through lessons on LGBT issues.

I grasp the various arguments about how any why gay exists. The gene, just as one example of such an argument, is beneficial in other formats or circumstances, thus it persists generation to generation even if it is not beneficial to the generation of descendants of the individual. And all that.

But I really do struggle to see how an entire population can be 90% gay from generation to generation. Seems most unlikely as an evolutionary outcome.

21 thoughts on “Are giraffes gay?”

  1. No stats but the only time I ever saw giraffes mating(Etosha National Park, Namibia) it became obvious they were both young males. Maybe the older males have better access to females, leaving the youth to practice on each other?

  2. Didn’t somebody (probably Dorothy Parker) say something like: you don’t need to teach humans about sex, just not to do it where it would scare the horses.

  3. The gene, just as one example of such an argument, is beneficial in other formats or circumstances, thus it persists generation to generation even if it is not beneficial to the generation of descendants of the individual.”

    It is a fairly common argument, but it fails to hold water.

    There doesn’t appear to be any one ‘gay gene’. As with most traits, there are cluster of genes which are influence individualsl.
    Genes associated with being gay seem to lead to health and life risks in many areas:

    The genes correlated with male homosexuality are also correlated ( at a statistically significant level) with risk-taking, cannabis use, schizophrenia, ADHD, major depressive disorder, loneliness, and number of sex partners. For female homosexuals, risk-taking, smoking, cannabis use, subjective well-being (-), schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, ADHD, major depressive disorder, loneliness, openness to experience, and number of sex partners.”

    https://westhunt.wordpress.com/2019/09/23/gay-genes/

  4. There aren’t any “gay” genes. Or combos likely either. An imprint–which during the childhood period of–mostly pre-verbal –vulnerability could be almost anything which can connect to some aspect of the kids inner world. Hell–I don’t know. But it makes a lot more sense than a “genetic” condition that more than any other would mitigate against its own survival.

  5. This is what their core vote in Barnsley and Merthyr Tydfil has been demanding for decades, and at last they have a party that listens to their needs. This, and Palestine.

    BTW there were gay giraffes with Corbyn at Cable Street, being so tall they were able to provide vital intelligence to commander Corbyn about the movements of the Fascist forces, helping him to win the day and finally bring peace to Northern Ireland.

  6. Our civilisation is dying isn’t it? Our establishment now openly revile the things that once made us great and we have descended into vacuous decadence like the dying days of the Roman empire. People argue heatedly over the most spastically trivial shit and meanwhile a demographic timebomb is ticking away. The history books of our future masters will portray this era as one when a once-great civilisation decided to eat itself – for no reason at all.

  7. People argue heatedly over the most spastically trivial shit and meanwhile a demographic timebomb is ticking away.

    But it’s not “people” is it? It’s just the same bunch of wankers in the metropolitan elite that are horrified by the plebs and want to inflict and enforce their world-view on them.

    Don’t worry. It’ll all get sorted out at some point and the wankers will be swinging from the lamp posts of Westminster, Whitehall and Islington.

    Bagsies on Dominic Grieve’s sorry ass!

  8. Less Gay, and having a queer gene, than simply just screwing anything that gets in front of them and because their heads are so high up they can’t see what it is but shag it by default.

    So less of a queer gene and more of a shortsighted gene.

  9. Gays are probably gay, but gay behaviour, that anal thing, is a behaviour also associated with those who wish to stick it in anything for the thrill. Can one assume that the defenders of gayness are also defenders of just sheer over-sexed under-restrained excess? It being the thing that rapists have, apparently.

    And, when your political class is so good at its own job that it can consider the problems of gay giraffes, should you think yourself lucky to live in such a perfect country?

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