Socialism – The Failed Idea That Never Dies

At any mention of his name you are supposed to ask “who funds you?”

Lefties hate him so viscerally that it is sure to be a great read

The idea that the NHS rescued UK citizens from a life as wheezing Victorian midgets is one of the many errors its lackwitted worshippers make. In its early stages the NHS nationalised an existing and successful network of doctors and hospitals. It built on this with modest success, until it lost control of its scope and its budgets. A dose of market accountability would do it the world of good. This is something many of our European neighbours have noticed of course…

It is fascinating to witness Brexit Derangement Syndrome and its very real effect on the brain. One can imagine holes appearing as the condition works its malign magic.

Poor old Newmania used to claim he was a solid one-nation conservative, betrayed by his own side. Now he’s going all giddy about the joys of Socialism. I suppose it doesn’t matter whether he’s forgotten what he used to believe or whether he’s forgotten to pretend.

BDS is real. It leads to delusions and damp mattresses.

On topic now – yes, give it a read.

So, the only option that seemed to be available to Mr Blair was to take over the welfare state and hand it over to a private sector. As I have pointed out before, this was a highly unusual move and I would be happy to be corrected on this.
But, it is very difficult to get a fair judgment on the privatisation of the NHS. The evidence that it has been a success is hard to find. The NHS was sold to a private firm but, the new company is called Circle. The reason for this is that in 2008 the Government was still a major shareholder in the company, despite it having had a takeover

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MC – The existing network of health provision was so successful, that every kind of politician ( including Churchill in his speech ‘after the war ‘ proposed a radical overhaul
It may be regrettable that it fell into the hands of the hard left of the day but it performs well despite its Totalitarian DNA , if you will.
If you look back at the emergence of the Labour Party in this country , combining Unions and socialist thought , surely no-one would call these heroes of the common man failures ?
George Bernard Shaw , HG Wells , Sidney and |Beatrice Webb are easy to admire but isn`t time to admit that the Blair government with its accommodation of the market did a lot of good .
In fact I would say that socialism and capitalism need each other

My maternal grandfather, an avowed socialist and trade union man, hated going to hospital. He always referred to them a Bevan’s Concentration Camps.

Oi, Crun, wot abaht Dr Shipman? The NHS is run so badly that a chap who murdered north of 250 patients was overlooked until he was spotted by Deborah Massey from Frank Massey and Sons funeral parlour, according to WKPD.

It’s by Niemietz so it should be good. But then the paperback costs twice as much as my book, and the Kindle four times as much, plus mine will be funnier. And Niemietz already gets a salary. And he’s German.

Socialism never dies because envy never dies.

Facepainting fuckwit: Even if the NHS worked–which it don’t–150 million human beings murdered puts you and socialism intio the shitter where you belong.

As for the existing health system–read “The Welfare State we are in”. The previous system worked well enough considering medicine was less advanced. Change was wanted to centralise matters so they would be more efficient. The dumb dipshit delusion at the black and evil heart of socilaismo. There were NO complaints about the existing systems in any of the reports of that era save that there was a 6 week waiting list for Rhuematiz treatment. Which treatment was ineffective then and is equally ineffective–and much more expensive –now.

Someone on here I think pointed out that the scum of Labour were the LAST to endorse Beveridge because they thought med provision might delay their shite “Revoolution”. And that Bevan himself only wanted to end charity cases by paying the existing doctors etc out of taxes. He did not want the crappy soviet mess the NHS morphed into and still is. Now with bullshit elements of the scummy middle class Marxist vermin (like you Face) adding “privatised” corporate socialist farce to the awful mix. Six week waiting list for rhuematiz? My GP has a two week waiting list to see the import and three weeks for the native.

Piss off Facepainter.

There’s a free PDF of this book available at the IEA website here.

Newmania,

Can I recommend you read the free pdf of the book referred to in the OP?
That’s what this post is about, rather than just the NHS.

I don’t ask you to agree with it, just read it. You may – very likely will – maintain that it is talking about something other than just the NHS and that’s true, but only trivially so.

“left to die in agony from preventable illness just so you can stab your boot into their back and yell ” You should have paid your fucking insurance you stupid fucker ” !”

Now the hard question: how do you provide a system that does care for everyone without also creating horrible perverse incentives, producer capture, wasteful practices divorced from the needs of the people they are trying to treat and astonishing managerial bloat?

Niemetz’s book shows why state/centrally planned organisations ALWAYS exhibit these problems and why these problems are harder to root out than in other polities.

“There was a political consensus among all Parties … that Health Care had to be reformed”

Untrue. Consider WKPD’s post on the Beveridge Report, a post of (I’d say) left-wing inclination, but one where truth keeps breaking through. It doesn’t make much of the point that the Conservatives and the Liberals adopted Beveridge’s conclusions early. It does, I suppose, admit that Labour opposed his ideas for a long time, caving in not long before the 1945 election, with the words “The Labour Party eventually also adopted the Beveridge proposals”.

It makes it pretty clear that Labour went for the stupid, Stalinist option, though expressing it more mildly as:

‘Labour deviated from Beveridge in the state’s role: their leaders opposed Beveridge’s idea of a National Health Service run through local health centres and regional hospital administrations, preferring a state-run body. Beveridge complained about this: “For Ernest Bevin, with his trade-union background of unskilled workers… social insurance was less important than bargaining about wages.”‘

The founding principle of the NHS is theft.

Theft of land and buildings from mutual funds and private companies which provided very good care for their subscribers.

What replaced it, sucked it dry over decades, living off its reputation and now exists as a defective organization parasitizing on the state whilst providing dire care. Bevan was a cunt who produced this mess, driven by envy and spite.

I think I’ve read some of this book in the form of his essays at the IEA website (if not, the same praise still applies). He’s very good at exposing the deluded mindset of Commies who always think that next time it’ll work. And he’s a very clear and engaging writer. It’s been on my ‘To Buy’ list for a while, although I’m not buying any books at the moment due to lack of funds.

He also takes the Commies on on their own patch (at conferences, etc.), which is to be congratulated.

@Henry Crun November 13, 2019 at 1:07 pm

…Eight hour waits in A&E
12 month wait to see a Neurologist and be told “Too late now, can’t fix it”
GP Home visit rare/gone, don’t worry you’ll be Dead soon

“A failure? It’s a f*cking catastrophe.”