There is just the slight problem here

Blue Planet, Extinction Rebellion and Greta Thunberg are all household names bringing information about serious environmental issues to the masses. They’ve helped green issues shoot up the agenda for this year’s general election, with a poll last month revealing that more than half of voters said that the climate emergency would influence how they cast their vote.

If it wasn’t for the media these scientific messages wouldn’t be heard or understood by millions of people. And Greta Thunberg’s extraordinary global impact demonstrates her mastery of skills that have little to do with what we usually think of as science.

None of the three are telling us the science.

Which is – we’ve already done sufficient to miss the more hair raising predictions of climate change. What’s left to do reveals a chronic problem that will be easy enough to deal with over the next few decades. That’s if we decide we’re going to believe the IPCC reports of course. If we decide we’re not going to then even less needs to be done.

There is no science anywhere which states that we need to cease economic growth and overthrow capitalism and free markets in order to deal with anything at all – other than varied teenage phantasms perhaps.

23 comments on “There is just the slight problem here

  1. But how dare you question the venerable and saintly St Greta?
    You have stolen her future you monster!
    You must be a nazi, picking on a small disabled girl like that! Therefore we can ignore you because Hitler.
    Etc
    Cont. P94

  2. The problem is that had environmentally concerned people not pointed out eye catching and catastrophic possibilities since the 1950s no-one would have done anything and we would by now be hopping from rock to rock on a boiling river of molten lava
    One factor that never seems to get a mention is that the population explosion of the 20th century is going level out and start going backwards as the small family pattern works through the developing world and through the age cohorts . The Uk is at a stage when we have far too many old people …..

  3. Do you really believe that stream of nonsense?

    “had environmentally concerned people not pointed out eye catching and catastrophic possibilities since the 1950s no-one would have done anything and we would by now be hopping from rock to rock on a boiling river of molten lava”

    What a load of bullshit

  4. “had environmentally concerned people not pointed out eye catching and catastrophic possibilities since the 1950s no-one would have done anything”

    Well, the thing is, we did pretty much nothing.

    We did none of the “essential” things that we “had” to do and tipping points and last chances and act nows came and went and none of the apocalyptic predictions came true.

    Tell us what it is we have done then Newmania, to avert the climate catastrophes that have been prophesied?

    Sure, we’ve cleaned up on waste, but that’s little to do with climate.

    As always, you are talking bollocks. Not even your own bollocks but that of a disabled teenage girl.

  5. Andrew
    Are we not switching to sustainable energy, are cars not much cleaner ( they are much), power stations planes…they certainly say so, do all those subsidised solar panels not count ?
    The tax and spend of European States is at least partially skewed to make the market account for external costs and set to go further. Overall my own view is that we have already done sufficient to miss the more hair raising predictions of climate change.
    I gather you feel this view is one held only by those who talk bollocks ,not even ( their) own bollocks but that of a disabled teenage girl.
    Seems a little impolite to Mr Worstall to me .

    ( Sorry Tim Andrew C has rumbled you , you are this witless plagiarising of Greta Thunberg must stop)

  6. Pollution and climate change are not the same thing. Yet the government and media keep conflating the two.

    Greta and XR have a narrow-minded focus on climate change. Blue Planet 2 looked at plastic pollution, but not at other types of pollution.

    We might be doing enough to avoid climate change; but pollution continues apace.

  7. Everything written about “Climate Science” should begin ‘In the present Interglacial …’; because The Ice is coming. Oh yes.

  8. Sustainable energy? Like what? Wind turbines that don’t provide energy when the wind doesn’t blow or have to be switched off when it’s too windy so the gearing mechanism doesn’t explode? Solar panels that only provide energy when the sun shines?

    As sustainable as your barking mad fuckwittery about creating solar panel farms in the Sahara.

    Do you tie your own shoelaces or does mummy still do that for you?

  9. @Newmania

    “Are we not switching to sustainable energy”

    No. Erections to the wind god have been built but then real power generation has been built to then provide the power. Ask Germany, nuclear to coal but still pay for turbines.

    “are cars not much cleaner”

    Since the development of the horseless cart. The progression improving considerably and continues to. Except for blips like Co2 regulation causing actually dangerous pollutants being output from BMW’s and the like.

    “power stations”

    Actual generation being reduced as labour feared the green vote would leave if he made any actual replacements. Then Blair’s amazing mistake of agreeing to reduce all UK Co2 emissions instead of the small part he was advised to.

    “planes”

    Flying boat crews around the world to carry a disabled little girl on a boat. Not because that is ‘green’ but because it makes her feel better.

    “do all those subsidised solar panels not count ?”

    We can subsidise anything but it doesnt make it a good idea. Such as ‘green’ energy sources and then fossil fuel generation on top (to keep the light on). The layabout kid in the basement playing XBox instead of getting a job or education. Cocane addiction if we so wish. The act of subsidy does not make it a good idea. And subsidising solar panels to be mis-sold and put on the wrong side of a house by cowboys is as smart as subsidising cowboys to do home insulation.

    The only achievement of this fanaticism over MMCC Co2 theory is to bring the crazies into the light. In Gretta’s case its a girl who should be in education, looked after and raised. Instead her age and disability are being used as a shield to protect hysterical religious types from criticism. When it all falls apart or her masses abandon her for their next prophet there will be an undereducated scared little girl known for being angry and confused.

  10. Facepaint–No we are not switching to renewable energy. Poor people are robbed so virtue-signalling middle class leftist London Bubble shite like you can sub totally uneconomic wind etc -wankery.

    That you support lying Marxist eco-scum –who are the leftist Orc skirmishers for the wannabe globo elite–comes as no surprise at all.

  11. more than half of voters said that the climate emergency would influence how they cast their vote

    Imagine actually believing this though.

    Greta Thunberg’s extraordinary global impact

    Almost nobody who isn’t a journowhore, bored upper middle class masturbator, or her paid PR tard-wranglers gives a shit about Greta Thundermong or her angry little foetal alcohol syndrome face.

  12. ‘Blue Planet, Extinction Rebellion and Greta Thunberg are all household names bringing information about serious environmental issues to the masses.’

    Sir David has been caught in TWO GIANT lies in the last few months.

    XR is Brown Shirts.

    St. Greta is a puppet.

    These purveyors of ‘serious environmental issues to the masses’ impress only CM scum and journalists. Oh, sorry for the redundancy.

  13. People love St Greta and XR because their shared message is that climate change is something that’s being done to ordinary people by Big Bad Rich People. So we don’t actually need to do anything except dress up as bees and glue ourselves to buses.

    The reality – that climate change is happening because of what *we* do – is much less palatable.

  14. Whether we’ve “done enough” (for whatever “it” is) remains to be seen, although I suspect “doing” rather than “done” would be closer to the money. Much more interesting is our old friend revealed preference… over half *say* that it influences their voting decision, except that does not seem to be reflected at all in the polling data, which indicates jobs, welfare, security and identity overrules it every time. Possibly because the “vision” for “dealing with it” is so negative – telling everyone else what they can’t do whilst carrying on as normal ourselves at best, and screwing the developing world into perpetual poverty at worst. If someone sells a positive vision where we’re all richer and there is a better environment then people might actually vote for it.

  15. yeah, I do object to people calling Attenborough’s stuff science. It’s a load of photography of peculiar animals doing peculiar things. Pretty to look at but has as much to do with science as a poster of the girl scratching her arse is to sport.

  16. @Newmania

    Even if everything you said about what we had done was true, St Greta herself would tell you that we are adding more and more CO2 to the atmosphere. Tarquin Smugcunt might be driving around in his electric Tossmobile but it doesn’t exactly off-set the new coal fired power station built just outside Peking this afternoon does it?

  17. Whoever dreamt up the name “Scoldilocks” for Ms. Thunberg should be celebrated as a genius!

  18. And Greta Thunberg’s extraordinary global impact demonstrates her puppet masters’ skills that have little to do with what we usually think of as science

    FTFY

    Greta Thunberg without her puppet masters

    Random words with no coherent message or facts

    .
    Worth watching, especially from @5m50s

    Viscount Christopher Monckton Speech – Climate Change: Debunking the Myths – 40min

    “Dear IPCC et al, what is optimum global mean temperature?
    Err, hmm, dunno, but change is bad”

  19. The climate emergency will influence how I cast my vote but not in the way that these idiots think. Any election leaflet that mentions it goes straight into the bin. I will base my choice on the ones that are left.

  20. @Lurker December 6, 2019 at 11:48 am

    Spot on

    @Gamecock December 6, 2019 at 1:33 pm

    Three:
    C4 News: Sir David Attenborough interview with Jon Snow on climate change

    Atten “I haven’t eaten meat for a long time; years, many years. I’m not a vegan and don’t study ingredients; but I haven’t eaten red meat for months”

    Is Atten saying Red Meat is not Meat – or is he virtue lying?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZwQN4JpJ8s

  21. @Chris Miller

    From Clean Brexit through Climate Change, Global Warming, Green, to Pro Business, Smaller State and Lower Taxes there is nobody to vote for.

    Depressing

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