Erm, why?

It would be a truly radical and transformational move for Weinstein to disregard his lawyers and decide it’s time to do the right thing: admit fault, apologize sincerely and individually, and use every last cent he has to make amends and pay back the women who accuse him of wrongdoing.

That rather makes the accusation the proof of the crime, doesn’t it? Not something that we’d actually enjoy having as part of a legal system.

18 comments on “Erm, why?

  1. My guess is that he has already “paid back the women” with attention, gifts, career help, and money. He did this in exchange for sex at the time of the transaction. He would indeed be foolish to pay beyond what was already agreed.

  2. Harvey Weinstein still hasn’t faced real consequences.

    Eh, he’s been publicly humiliated, lost his company, his wife divorced him and took millions, he’s been arrested and charged with being a sex pervert, and is also facing multiple civil lawsuits.

    it is yet another example of how impotent our system is at dealing with the kind of systematic sexual wrongdoing that brought about the #MeToo movement. The acts of harassment and assault that too many women face are often done in private, leaving insufficient evidence for a criminal case

    Yes. I think the lesson here is: maybe don’t suck dick to get roles in Hollywood?

    Maybe don’t turn your holes into chambre a louer and then complain about it years later, when nobody wants to go spelunking in you anymore?

  3. The accusations are of rape, aren’t they?

    I don’t buy it. Weinstein was buying sex. And men buying sex don’t generally rape. They already have a means to get sex. And there’s a number of actresses who got offered the trade and just declined (Sarah Polley’s article on this suggests it was very business-like).

    Women don’t like being known as being sluts and whores. They’ll cry rape (no, it wasn’t my choice) in some cases.

    Maybe the bloke’s guilty, but I’m betting not.

  4. ‘The acts of harassment and assault that too many women face are often done in private, leaving insufficient evidence for a criminal case.’

    “We wimmins demand harassment and assault be in public!”

    With video and pix.

  5. BoM4 – I don’t buy it either. According to the (credible) revelations about him, his modus operandi involved a mixture of flattery, insinuation, pathetic begging and neurotic wheedling.

    Wanking into a pot plant when a woman turn you down isn’t the sort of thing you’d expect from an apex sex predator.

  6. “apologize sincerely and individually, and use every last cent he has to make amends and pay back the women who accuse him of wrongdoing. ”
    What would happen if he apologised to, and paid off, half of them? Would that be accepted as contrition?

  7. Mind you, I did laugh at his turn at playing the poor, old, crippled victim. Vulgarity, thy name is Hollywood.

  8. Wanking into a plant pot is exactly what a sexual predator does.

    They are typically pathetic, not powerful.

    Even slightly impressive men don’t need to rape, some woman will be willing.

    Plus hookers and interweb porn.

  9. I’m guessing that with his latest appearance using a walker they are worried ill health will mean no big day in court and no payout

  10. It would be interesting in the civil case where the same rules don’t apply to see if Weinstein lawyers ask the accusers the question of exactly what payment (even in kind) they were offered and if they actually got it. And if they had done similar deals with any other directors or agents.

  11. Itellyounothing – Sure

    Obviously Weinstein is a sex pervert. A predator, even. That’s not particularly surprising given: (a) Hollywood; and (b) his face looks like it’s carved out of human shit.

    He’s being made out to be some sort of unstoppable non-consensual sex machine though. A kind of priapic Terminator. The Napoleon of rape.

    I don’t believe that he is. I’d bet money he never actually “raped” anyone in the Whoopi Goldberg sense. Seems like a whole lot of delayed revenge by bitter old hags who were probably more or less willing to polish his Oscar in exchange for career advancement.

    I’d further bet that American lawyers probably advise clients that you’ve got a better chance of extracting a healthy settlement from a lawsuit if you cry “rape” instead of “inappropriate behaviour in the workplace”.

  12. As an enthusiastic amateur horticulturalist I am trying to reconcile

    Wanking into a pot plant
    with
    his latest appearance using a walker

    and wondering (unless there’s a literal there) whether he is simply too infirm to carry a watering can (other than his own, if you get my meaning).

    As an aside, might I add how impressed I am with the detailed knowlege which I so happily lack and that other contributors have so firm a grasp of?

  13. @BoM4

    +1

    Joan Collins wrote about how she said “No”, didn’t get part and had no regrets or thought it wrong after the MeToo nonsense started. Her opinion is if a woman sells her body for financial gain, her choice.

    As you say, it’s women regretting what they did and crying rape

  14. “It would be a truly radical and transformational move for Weinstein to blah, blah, blah.”

    We’re talking about Harvey Weinstein. Why should he? What would he buy with all this? Nothing. It’s a stoopid idea from the Guardian.

    ‘That Weinstein cannot even offer that – that after all of this, after his name becoming nearly synonymous with the #MeToo movement, he still uses his legal team to angle for no admission of fault – tells us that he does not take responsibility publicly or privately.’

    Whah! Whah! Serial molester shows no contrition !!!

    ‘and use every last cent he has to make amends’

    Nah. Retirement is upon him. He needs the money.

    Ms Filipovic lives in an alternative universe.

  15. Weinstein is very unlikely to be guilty of rape–ie forcing himself on a woman.

    He made offers which the women accepted or they didn’t.

    Several who say they turned him down –eg Paltrow if memory serves–went on to have very good careers so Weinie does not even seem to have been vindictive about rejection. Or massively over-estimated his influence in Tinseltown.

    Frankly–unless some real evidence of a real sexual assault turns up–there is no case to answer.

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