We Should Be Free to Say “Fuck You” to the Boss

And in a world of equality and justice your boss will be free to say “Fuck You” to you too, right?

24 thoughts on “Sure”

  1. Take THAT, man who employs me!

    by Ingar Solty

    But why so salty?

    Ingar Solty is Senior Research Fellow in Foreign, Peace and Security Policy at the Rosa Luxemburg Foundation’s Institute for Critical Social Analysis in Berlin. He is author of several books, including The USA Under Obama (Die USA unter Obama) and the forthcoming edited volumes Literature and Class Society (Literatur in der neuen Klassengesellschaft) and On the Shoulders of Karl Marx (Auf den Schultern von Karl Marx).

    Nobody who speaks German could be an evil man.

  2. He’s right that full employment means you can change jobs easily; but it only really applies to the bottom rung of the ladder.

    If you’re a middle-aged executive then you can still tell your boss to fuck off. You’ll be able to find work in fast food, like Kevin Spacey’s character in American Beauty; but you won’t land another executive job without a half-decent reference.

  3. An overlong defence of – nay an assault by – the principle of the “right” (privilege) for lefties to have a free ride on the shoulders of the right-wingers who actually work to earn their living.

  4. @ Andrew M
    In financial services a sufficiently talented middle-aged executive can tell his boss to fuck off and join, or even start, a new firm. Look at Terry Smith or Neil Woodford (you won’t have heard of the guy of whom I was thinking when I wrote the previous sentence: juniorish partner in a firm of stockbrokers, angry about an unfair share of the firm’s annual profit-share “bonus”, went out to lunch and came back somewhat drunk told the Managing Director what he thought of him. Left, co-founded a new stockbroking firm that fairly soon became more successful than the one he left). BUT you need to be more valuable than the boss you tell to “Fuck off”

  5. @ Andrew M

    If you are good your boss may well decide to suck it up – he knows if he fires you, certain clients will likely follow on behind. If you are just a suit, however, well – there are plenty of suits.

  6. the Rosa Luxemburg Foundation’s Institute for Critical Social Analysis in Berlin

    You’d be hard pressed to dream up anything better in a satire of the hard Left.

  7. Bloke in North Dorset

    If it’s got to the point where you seriously want to tell your boss to fuck off you probably should have been looking for a new job for some time. By now you will have a new job, so resigning anyway or know that possibly you aren’t as valuable in the market place as you thought, in which case biting your tongue is probably the best course.

    This is interesting from Isabel Hardman, what happens when MPs lose their seats.

  8. Dennis, The Swinging Tool of Capitalism

    Essentially, Leo Panitch pointed out that full employment enabled workers to say, “Fuck you, boss,” without having to fear the consequences. In other words, only full employment made workers free enough to feel and act as equals.

    Which begs the question: Why are leftists in the USA, Britain and the remainder of Europe so determined to create a new and very large permanent underclass of low-skill individuals in their countries via mass immigration?

    These days it isn’t the capitalist who is attempting to grow and maintain a pool of cheap surplus labor, it’s the leftists.

  9. “These days it isn’t the capitalist who is attempting to grow and maintain a pool of cheap surplus labor, it’s the leftists”

    They see them as a pool of cheap votes.

  10. Dennis: Oppressor, Warmonger, Capitalist and Consumer of Petroleum Products

    Keynesian full-employment policy was the material foundation for wanting more from life than just 9 to 5, labor routine, and the same kind of job until you die. It was the material foundation for experimenting with drugs as a means to finding “your true self,” for living “every day as if it were your last,” and for listening to late 1950s rock ‘n’ roll, early 1960s beat, and late 1960s psychedelic music as an expression of that particular search for “a higher state of mind.“ Really, the next time you hear the Zombies’ “Time of the Season,” the Turtles’ “Happy Together,” or Tomorrow’s “Revolution,” think of full-employment policy.

    This is the single most stupid thing I have read in at least 25 years. This is laugh out loud stupid. This is “You’ve shit the bed of your life, Ingar Solty!” stupid. This is “I wouldn’t insult all the world’s leftist pseudo-intellectuals by calling you a leftist pseudo-intellectual, you fucking ink stained wanker!” stupid. Not even the master himself, Richard Murphy, has ever been able to scale these heights.

  11. Dennis, Legend of the Parish

    They see them as a pool of cheap votes.

    Very true. It also shows how much they actually care about “equality”. The irony of the contradiction is all the more delicious because they seem so oblivious to it.

  12. Bloke in Costa Rica

    Dorset bloke: it’s a bit depressing that in the wake of a supposedly huge shift in UK politics, having seen off the worst Parliament since the 1830s, only 47 of the fuckers have been binned.

  13. @ Dennis
    “Up to a point, Lord Copper” should be part of one’s response. (In the UK, at least) Keynesian “full employment” was a precondition for the generous hand-outs to small percentage of unemployed that permitted teenage idiots to free-ride while off their heads on drugs. Woodstock would have been impossible in 1951 UK. [Another pre-condition was the massive increase in GDP in the 1950s under Ike and Churchill/Eden/MacMillan]

  14. Bloke in North Dorset


    It is indeed, but don’t forget a few went before they were pushed. I’m thinking especially of Tom Watson who didn’t even have the good grace to let us see his demise on election night, cowardly bastard.

  15. These days it isn’t the capitalist who is attempting to grow and maintain a pool of cheap surplus labor, it’s the leftists.

    Well, it’s both. You have woke corporations and leftist NGOs both agitating for open borders, ostensibly for different reasons.

  16. Dennis, Tiresome Denizen of Central Ohio

    …woke corporations and leftist NGOs…

    A distinction without a difference, at least in the political sense. Remember, according to Marx, capitalists are, by definition, political and social reactionaries. One can hardly make that argument today.

  17. Dennis, Former Blogger to the Gods

    “Up to a point, Lord Copper” should be part of one’s response. (In the UK, at least) Keynesian “full employment” was a precondition for the generous hand-outs to small percentage of unemployed that permitted teenage idiots to free-ride while off their heads on drugs.

    The largest expansion of unemployment and welfare benefits in the USA came in the late ’60s, in the aftermath of large-scale social unrest (rioting, etc.) by urban African-Americans. It was considered riot insurance. The USA never approached full employment in either the ’60s or ’70s. Which is one of the many reasons Solty is full of shit.

    The goofs that attended Woodstock were overwhelmingly white and middle-class… they were there not because of Keynesian full employment. They were there because of draft deferments. Black youth and working class white kids were over in Vietnam. The kids whose parents could afford to send them to college got the deferments. It had more to do with bourgeois entitlement than anything else.

  18. Dennis
    The Zombies are an odd example of the benefits of the era of full employment. They broke up just before Time of the Season was a big hit in the US because they couldn’t make a decent living despite having been relatively successful already.

  19. @ Dennis
    I bow to your superior knowledge of the USA. I knew Keynes was British not American and thought that he was less influential in the US than UK but as Mr Solty is/was American I thought that he was talking (rot) about the USA not Europe. I am happy to have my doubts dispelled.
    It does not surprise me that the Woodstock hippies were the US equivalent of the Guardianistas’/BBC presenters’ children: guys like me were expected to be earning a living (and did), the working class guys had to because they didn’t have a choice..

  20. Complaining about one job for life and being Marxist is a bit rough. Not only do you get a job for life under Communism, but they pick it for you too.

    I don’t think many of the Cubans working the sugar fields want to be there.

  21. John McDonnell – An Apology (courtesy of Craig Brown writing in the Daily Mail):

    People have been asking for an apology.
    So let me make it clear.
    I’ll take it on the chin. I own this disaster, so I apologise. And I make no apology for apologising.
    I apologise to all those wonderful Labour MPs who lost their seats.
    I apologise to all our campaigners.
    I apologise to all those people who so desperately need a Labour government.

    I apologise to all the citizens of the world, from Iceland to Tasmania, from Indonesia to Venezuela, who were literally crying out for a brilliant Labour government led by Jeremy Corbyn.
    I apologise to those who were forced, through no fault of their own, to place a cross in the wrong place on the ballot paper, because their hands were being guided by the monstrously overweight billionaire capitalists who control our mass media.

    And I apologise to those who feel, for reasons of their own, that their individual concerns have not been covered by this apology. I’d remind them that this is why we campaigned — and will continue to campaign — to bring all their concerns under public control.

    In fact, I have long argued that apologies themselves should be subject to proper controls. At the moment, demand for apologies far exceeds supply. Our people — good people — are crying out for more apologies.
    There are massive apology shortages in the North East and the South West, and everywhere in between.

    Which is why in our manifesto we promised to pump £50 billion into a new Universal Apology Strategy, so that apologies can be delivered as and when required to those who need them most.
    Let me make it absolutely clear. If anyone’s to blame for our election defeat, it is me.
    That’s if you could call it a defeat.
    Isn’t it interesting, though, that people are going round calling it that.

    I actually think it’s very largely a media portrayal. So I’ll say it again. There’s an urgent need for a full and open discussion about whether we as a society should allow that word ‘defeat’ to be bandied about quite so freely.

    Let me finish. One recent study found that upwards of 78 per cent of Labour MPs held onto their seats in the recent General Election. And that’s a huge percentage.
    Now in any other walk of life, 78 per cent would be seen as a tremendous victory.

    If a student got 78 per cent in an exam he would get a first-class degree. And rightly so.
    But the Tory media continues to distort that figure so as to suggest that Labour in some mysterious way suffered a ‘defeat’!

    And that’s how the Establishment will always portray anyone who tries to take them on. First they’ll beat them, and then they’ll call them losers.

    But, as I say, I totally take the blame for what happened.
    I admit fully that my judgment was probably coloured by my tendency to be too honourable.
    But I have no recollection of any election defeat, none whatsoever.

    I am prepared to admit mistakes. You could say that one of our biggest mistakes was to produce a first-rate manifesto with a fantastic programme of far-reaching plans for transforming our country. But that’s not what I’d call a mistake.

    Don’t think I haven’t sat down and asked myself where it all went wrong.
    I admit that completely. I have sat down, and I am sitting down, and I will continue to sit down for as long as it takes. I have, in fact, long advocated a prolonged programme of sitting down for the vast majority of the British people.

    I am proud to have delivered a manifesto that advocated our strongest-ever commitment to sitting down, with billions of pounds’ worth of investment not only in kitchen chairs and arm-chairs but also in sofas and fully sustainable bean-bags.

    And after a sustained programme of sitting down, the conclusion I have come to is that if we are going to accept the need to change, we must be sure to remain exactly as we are.
    I apologise that our manifesto and our analysis of society were absolutely correct in every detail. If our party is to go forward, we must turn around, and then continue to go backward while facing the future.

    And for that, I do not apologise.

  22. @Andrew C

    Reminds me of a Blair era Scottish Defence/Home Secretary in HoC

    “Blah, if you think I should apologise for xxx I will consider it done…”

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