Willy’s trying it too

So, although more than 17 million people voted for parties that wanted a second referendum compared with fewer than 15 million who did not, on 31 January Britain will leave the EU on Boris Johnson’s terrible deal

30 thoughts on “Willy’s trying it too”

  1. I just saw a FB post of a tweet claiming that only 1:5 Britons voted for BJ.

    Actually have to include the entire population including babies to get that and then round up from 4.8 to 5.

    I pointed out that by that metric TB got fewer than 1:6 in 2005 and fewer than 1:5 in 2001. Even in 1997 with his 418 seats he did only slightly better.

    This break-down is worse than following the 2016 referendum.

  2. Lets hope that The Labour Party utilises Huttons management and strategy skills to their full potential (as per the industrial society)

  3. Surely if you are going to count people who “did not” vote for a second referendum party then you have to count everyone who “did not” vote at all?

    The Left and logic don’t really mix, do they?

  4. Well, you can take a large rusty nail and insert it into your cock, Willy, because all this shouting is just pissing in the wind.

    There’s no hung parliament this time with a narrow majority with Arlene Foster’s crew (I am going to miss Arlene Foster, though). No treacherous scumbags like Grieve jumping to the other side. No parties pissing about with changing their mind about respecting the result.

    Cry all you like, Willy. Whine all fucking day about the injustice of it all. It’s going to happen and there ain’t nothing you can do about it.

  5. Is Willy a real person or one of them skinjobs from Westworld, built to generate endlessly tedious content based on adding random words between his usual stock vocabulary of “broken capitalism”… “toxic rightwing press”… “radical”… “vibrant”… “inclusive”…

    Once your eyes glaze over I assume he’s programmed to steal your pension, or something.

    But nevermind that, mind this:

    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/residents-bid-rename-corbyn-road-17420058

    😀

  6. He is describing a contest that didn’t occur.

    if it had, then candidates, parties and voters would have behaved differently.

    It was a contest to elect a government, not a referendum on Brexit.

  7. Bloke in North Dorset

    And as Rob pointed out on another thread, in 2017 both major parties supported Brexit, so that’s 80%, then all of a sudden the elected MPs discovered their inner Burke and suddenly Parliament was sovereign and hand a mandate to do as it pleased.

  8. I wonder how many of the Guardian reading B-Arkers will genuinely fuck off out of the country after January? Many are convinced the Gestapo will be kicking their door down before dawn on February 1st, but the true test of the pudding is in the fleeing, so they say.

    My estimate is a number so close to zero it is barely worth mentioning, as they will choose to continue their very, very comfortable lives in the UK with the added bonus of smug moaning on top.

  9. ‘On 31 January’

    Gross speculation

    ‘Britain will leave the EU on Boris Johnson’s terrible deal’

    True. But Boris won’t suffer the consequences, Britain will.

    But, cirrusly, Hutton is damn sure against a proper No Deal exit.

  10. He is (inadvertently) correct on one point, though: on Jan 31st Britain will leave the EU with Boris Johnson’s terrible deal. Which is to say we won’t be leaving in any real sense.

  11. DJ – Oh yeah. I’d forgotten about that.

    The New European, which fills the role of Volkischer Beobachter for Continuity Remainers fighting Operation Werwolf against the advancing Brexit forces (by complaining online) has a fun couple of stories today:

    * CRAZY Brexit Party woman believes in crazy alien conspiracy lol XD XD

    * Evil fascist dictator Boris will FINALLY release the report on Vladimir Putin’s totally-real-you-guys conspiracy to do Brexit, 12/12 and Australia’s Ashes victory :-O :-O

    Blond man bad!

  12. PR results in stasis under which nobody gets what they voted for. This builds up frustration over time which may lead to violence and extremism. The advantage of FPP is that we get to try out a party’s policies and if they work – fine, if not they’re kicked out. So we get peaceful change with consent. It may explain why extremism has never succeeded in the UK. David Deutsch compares FPP to our adversarial legal system and to Popper’s theory of falsification in science. In law and in science an allegation or theory is (or should be) tested by an advocate taking an opposing view. If it stands up to the challenge of reality – ok.

  13. Apparently Canada was one of the trending search terms during the election result with lefties looking to leave a newt facist right wing UK, given the entire debate around immigration seemed centred on having a points based limit like Canada and the left complaining how bad this was it makes you wonder exactly how much attention they were paying to their own arguments

  14. Bloke in Costa Rica

    In the aftermath of a drubbing, you always get a bunch of hysterical Leftoids shrieking that they’re off to Canada or New Zealand or whatever, as though you can just rock up there and they’ll give you residency. It’s as delusional as their persecution mania.

  15. Imagine the shock on the face of those leftoids wanting to come to Canada when they find out they will need to take a test to prove they are suitably fluent in either English or French. Oh and if things haven’t changed a criminal record check from everywhere they have lived for more than 6 months since 18.

  16. Smithy: “PR results in stasis under which nobody gets what they voted for. This builds up frustration over time which may lead to violence and extremism. ”

    Yeah… it’s amazing how us Cloggies are the hallmark of extremism and violence after being under the stagnating yoke of true PR ( total amount , seats modified by preferential votes to name) for over a century while juggling at least 5 major political parties plus some odds and ends……

  17. …although more than 17 million people voted for parties that wanted a second referendum compared with fewer than 15 million who did not…

    As I recall without looking it up, it was about:

    Cons 14m.
    Lab 10m
    Lib 3.5m
    SNP 1.5m

    Now to me that makes:

    14m people who wanted to leave immediately
    10m people who wanted a second referendum
    5m people who DIDN’T want a second referendum, and wanted to ignore the first one.

    Where this 17m comes from I have no idea….. but it looks to me as if 24m people would accept leaving, and 5m wouldn’t….

  18. Imagine the shock on the face of those leftoids wanting to come to Canada

    …and they realise Canada’s not in the EU either

  19. Yes I had to produce my O level English certificates or take an English language test, and a US friend who graduated Harvard had to take the test for some reason, mainly that he didn’t bother reading what the exceptions were.

  20. Grikath

    We have examples of our own (St Jo of Cox) but Pim Fortuyn and Theo van Gogh spring to mind, not to mention malicious prosecutions against Geert Wilders.

  21. Bloke in North Dorset

    I recently heard an argument that Jo Swinson lost because of sexisim!! There’s no hope for some: she was beaten by a woman, who represented a party led by a woman. 3rd place wen to a woman representing the Conservative Party, the top man was Labour and he was miles back.

  22. Simply untrue!
    The LibDems did not want a second referendum- their manifesto said that they would revoke Article 50 without a referendum.
    Conservatives plus BXP 45.6%
    Labour, SNP Greens 38.8%

  23. Labour were in power for 13 years – so Labour supporters should not complain about our voting system – their party should have changed it.
    (BTW I do support PR)

  24. “I wonder how many of the Guardian reading B-Arkers will genuinely fuck off out of the country after January? ”

    Dunno how old you are but I bet *none*. First election I can remember (1979) they were saying that about Mrs T (and stuff about the NHS ….). They never do. (There is already talk of crowdfunding Alibhai-Brown’s ticket). However, if Corbyn had one, a fair chunk of those virtue signalling celebs would have quietly left sans fanfare.

  25. “The New European” is that still going ? Given that it must have been propped up to keep it going I’d assumed it would get the Femi treatment.

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