You what?

They can’t possibly believe this. Can they?

As Helen Joyce recently noted in Quillette, it has become an article of faith in progressive circles that our sexual attraction follows the abstraction of gender, not the reality of biological sex.

Whut?

23 thoughts on “You what?”

  1. “As I often say to my long-suffering wife, it’s impossible for me to write comedy when a man with a beard here in the UK—just a normal forty something bloke with a beard and eyeshadow—goes into schools, as a representative of Stonewall, and tells a bunch of puzzled kids that he’s a lesbian,” declared comedian Graham Linehan

    There’s some truth to this, isn’t there? And not just because the rozzers are now also the Joke Police.

    When real life becomes more ostentatiously absurd than comedy, what happens to the funny?

    Call it the Elfwick Paradox. It becomes progressively more difficult to parody progressives, because they’re more mental than you could possibly imagine in your wildest lampoonings. But it’s not just mockery of lefties that becomes redundant (Linehan is a textbook bumhurt lefty-lib).

    2003’s Little Britain made fun of an assortment of comedic grotesques, including a pair of low-effort moustachioed transvestites who dressed like pantomime dames and loudly demanded everyone pretend that they’re laaaaydeees.

    In 2019 that’s more likely to be the scenario of a (sympathetic) news report about “transphobia”.

    So, eh… ha ha? I suppose? But it feels like the joke’s on us.

    Dalrymple made a famous observation about the purpose of propaganda in communist societies being to create a society of emasculated liars. There probably aren’t many good stand up comics in North Korea either. You can’t be funny – laugh-out-loud, knee-slappingly, pants-endangeringly hilarious – and politically correct, doesn’t work that way.

    “Comedy” in emasculated liarland is just the establishment’s favoured political slogans, spiced up with a drizzling of passive-aggression and snark. It’s anti-humour, intended not to amuse, but to reinforce orthodoxy. Applause instead of guffaws.

    At least we have Nish Kumar…

  2. The guy claiming to be a lesbian, he presumably sexually attracted to women then. Doesn’t that just make him a normal bloke? If not I think that I must be a lesbian as well.

  3. It is chemistry: hormones the body’s chemical messengers.

    Chemistry is about reaction not abstraction.

    What we are seeing these days is the outcome of State education education education policy: ignorance.

  4. …it has become an article of faith in progressive circles…

    We are a religious species so people (particularly in groups) will be inclined to believe all sorts of irrational things. Whilst this behaviour has clearly provided an adaptive advantage overall (why it exists) it can also lead to some almighty batshit cul de sacs. As Steyn has suggested, we are becoming a society too stupid to survive.

  5. I used to think that a lesbian was a women who was sexually attracted to women. A flaw in that definition is that it says nothing about the sexual desires of the target of the attraction.

    Now I discover that a lesbian is somebody who thinks that they are a women who is sexually attracted to people who… erm… the attractee thinks is a women? the attractor thinks is a woman? And it’s something-phobic if the attractee or the attractor discovers that the other party has a penis and observes the existance of that fact. Or if the attractee isn’t sexually attracted to women. Or if the attractee doesn’t think they are a woman. Or if the attractee is sexually attracted to women, and isn’t sexually attracted to penises regardless of who they are attached to. I’m confused. Bring back professional matchmakers.

  6. People who believe that socialism is a good idea are by definition some toxic mix of stupid and insane, so really, what does anyone expect from a leftist?

  7. I’ve been trying to get my head around this particular bit or tortured logic for some time.

    IF (big if) we accept that certain people have ‘female’ brains, while having male bits, we must conclude that said people should generally speaking be sexually attracted to men. The logic being that lesbianism in the female population at large is a small % so the vast majority of ‘female brain in a mans body’ people would be ‘straight’ – that is to say their female brain would fancy men, not women. Ergo all trans women should have fancied men while living as men themselves, and thus when they transition are merely aligning their physical self with their mental self.

    But what we are seeing is people with male bits, who are sexually attracted to women, then declaring that they are trans women who are lesbian, ie still sexually attracted to women. Which is a cop out. If they REALLY had a female brain from birth they’d want cock not fanny. I’d say its a reason test for genuineness for trans people – does the sexual desire before and after match the alleged female nature of the brain? If so then at least they are walking the walk. If not they they are just cherry picking – I’ve got a female brain so must live as a women, but don’t want any of those icky cocks thank you very much!

  8. An article of faith in progressive trapezoids.

    FIFY. The circle is too regular a geometric shape to be used for progressives.

  9. Yes they can. In a Fitzgeralding sense of holding two opposed ideas in mind at the same time and still be able to function.

    Because, believe me, these people will tell you that sex and gender are the same – except when its necessary for them to not be.

  10. @Steve December 8, 2019 at 12:17 pm

    “Comedy” in emasculated liarland is just the establishment’s favoured political slogans, spiced up with a drizzling of passive-aggression and snark. It’s anti-humour, intended not to amuse, but to reinforce orthodoxy. Applause instead of guffaws.

    At least we have Nish Kumar…

    Spot on

    At least we have Nish Kumar… ducking bread rolls and Booed Off Stage

  11. @John B

    Education: – BBC Apprentice

    Female 1 (19) “Androgynous perfume”

    Female 2 (~25) “What does Androgynous mean”

    @Jim December 8

    Many M-F trannies do prefer cock, but hit a problem – most straight males don’t want a TS GF and most Gays don’t want a BF who looks like a female

  12. Nish Kumar was told by the audience not to do politics and persisted so got off lightly I reckon, sadly for the progressives entertaining your audience is not the 1st priority of an entertainer.
    It comes way down the list after being clever and showing you are clever and progressive and educating the audience

  13. Steve

    “There’s some truth to this, isn’t there? And not just because the rozzers are now also the Joke Police.”

    It’s not just that they are the joke police, it’s that they put significantly more resources into policing jokes than they do into street crime, burglary etc. because it is more rewarded within the police ‘service’. They are a significant participant in the social engineering of the UK.

  14. “2003’s Little Britain made fun of an assortment of comedic grotesques, including a pair of low-effort moustachioed transvestites who dressed like pantomime dames and loudly demanded everyone pretend that they’re laaaaydeees.

    In 2019 that’s more likely to be the scenario of a (sympathetic) news report about “transphobia”.”

    On this one, that Canadian transvestite demanding a gynecologist examines her ‘lady parts’ would have been exactly one of those Little Britain skits only a decade ago.

  15. Does it pass the smell test? Pheromones determine sexual attraction and no amount of Heath Robinson makeup, hormone tinkery or physical mutilation is going to alter how you smell. Sorry trannies but your fantasies don’t translate into reality. Evolution has kept the species going so far by helping us choose a genetically compatible mate and you are just an irrelevant footnote.

  16. @David Moore
    “put significantly more resources into policing jokes”
    Do you have a citation for this? If true, appalling, and Tory govt ought to do something (if they win, if they had a clue …)

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