Nick Griffin was correct then

No, obviously not about everything. But about one specific thing:

A senior police officer admitted that his force ignored the sexual abuse of girls by Pakistani grooming gangs for decades because it was afraid of increasing “racial tensions”, a watchdog has ruled.

After a five-year investigation, the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) upheld a complaint that the Rotherham officer told a missing child’s distraught father that the town “would erupt” if it was known that Asian men were routinely having sex with under-age white girls.

The chief inspector is said to have described the abuse as “P*** shagging” and to have said it had been “going on” for 30 years: “With it being Asians, we can’t afford for this to be coming out.”

Memory is not what it could be, but didn’t Griffin say this on TV once – Question Time? – and get roundly slagged off for having done so? I’ve even some vague thought that they were talking about this back in 2004/5.

43 comments on “Nick Griffin was correct then

  1. “…. the Rotherham officer told a missing child’s distraught father that the town “would erupt” if it was known that Asian men were routinely having sex with under-age white girls.”

    I think he meant: ” …Asian men were routinely raping under-age white girls.”

    As for the town ‘erupting’, perhaps it should? Maybe it’s time for the Saxon to hate.

  2. As was Tommy Robinson. Who the Bedfordshire force are desperate to ensure doesn’t….go to any football matches.

    When do we start calling it what it is? State persecution for wrongthink.

  3. …Pakistani grooming gangs…

    They weren’t running around enforcing stylish haircuts. “Pakistani pedophile rape gangs” is the correct term. They’re still covering for them.

    Now that it has come out, far from erupting, all these towns across England seem to be indifferent to the rapes and the coverups. So the establishment, and their friends the “P***s”, will carry on.

  4. What’s coyly hiding behind the *** ? I’m trying to think of a 4-letter sex term beginning with P that’s bad enough to need blanking out.

  5. RichardT
    Think of a country adjacent to India, then think of a short (and now derogatory) term for the migrants thereof.

    It isn’t a sex term, it’s far far worse than that 🙂

  6. PJF – Dunno, I’d like to think people are just demoralised into public silence by the politicians and police, but apparently most people are OK with 200,000+ babies being killed in utero every year by the NHS, so maybe we’re a wicked nation that will be flailed by God*. I’m sure the Germans who turned a blind eye to the treatment of Jews also thought they were good people, but decency can’t be passively inhaled.

    After the election I wrote my (Conservative) MP about the “grooming gangs”, asking what was being done to stop it. The reply I received carefully managed to avoid answering the question, while spouting generic assurances that he personally thinks kiddy rape is bad. (Gosh!)

    So I won’t be voting for the Tories again unless they do something about this. Probably won’t make any difference, but I can’t think of anything else right now.

    I do think there’s something to the strong horse theory of public mood, in which case roll on the glue factory so we can put these puling palfreys to productive pursuits. We may be at the very early stages of a British glasnost post-Brexit, but even Moloch required the might of the Roman legions to delenda est.

    *Or “history” if you prefer

  7. I think they’ve deliberately drink-fed the investigations one town/city at a time to spread out the bad news and hope that people’s memories are short and they don’t realise just how wide scale the problem has been.

    Just around me in the North we’ve had (off the top of my head):

    Bradford
    Bury
    Derby
    Dewsbury
    Huddersfield
    Keighley
    Manchester
    Rochdale
    Rotherham

    I’m sure others will be able to add to this list – not just up North but across the country.

  8. Telford
    Oxford
    Bristol

    It is difficult to imagine a more explicit demonstration of the political elite’s hatred for the indigenous people of this country than this.

  9. @Tim the Coder
    Think of a country adjacent to India, then think of a short (and now derogatory) term for the migrants thereof.

    Didn’t stop the Pakistan High Commissioner being driven around in a Roller with PAK1 plates for years.

  10. Steve, we’re an odd lot, us English. There’s something of the “happily whipped dog” about us with regards to our masters. I think it may be an ongoing cultural aftershock from the Norman takeover. A small band of foreign elite managed to deflate us with a mix of nasty repression and creep-inducing patronage. We might be resilient in the face of other foreign elite takeovers, but we’re brow beaten to accept this one no matter how much it screws us. Even as it replaces us with a new people we accept it.

    So we believe in our institutions and wait patiently for them to deliver. And we get pretend conservatives and pretend Brexit and pretend law and order. And we wait patiently.

    “…flailed by God.”

    Isn’t God done with the flailing (and burning, drowning, salt-pillar-turning, etc)? Is that not the whole deal with the Covenant of Christ?

    God or the English, whose patience wears out first remains to be seen.

  11. I wonder how much stomach there is to deal with this. It’s unfair to pick on one person but the Raedwald blog (which seems both decent and sound) is good evidence of the cowardice of the right on this matter.

    He wrote an article praising the MEN for publicising the most recent example of the organised rape and sexual exploitation of children, yet pledged to cut any comments that mentioned the truth of this matter, claiming- untruthfully- that this is about nonces and nothing to do with race, culture or religion. The Telegraph’s coverage of the latest identikit outrage refers to ‘Asian grooming gangs’, as if there might be Sikhs or Hindus or Chinese or Thai perpetrators.

    Over the past 2-3 decades dozens of towns across Britain have seen child rape and sexual exploitation which would be shocking if it happened in an African war zone.

    99% of the perps have been Muslims of Pakistani origin.

    Even though a few dozen perps have been convicted for organising the abuse, the thousands of their mates and family who also ‘enjoyed’ these poor girls have gone Scot free. As have the non-participants in the religious and ethnic communities who turned a blind eye.

    These communities were aided and abetted by the British establishment, writ small or large, which agreed with the perps that these children were ‘white slags’ whose lot was to be raped and abused. And so ignored the abuse of hundreds of thousands of girls.

    It is nothing to do with paedophilia. These filth chose young teen girls because they were vulnerable, not out of noncery. They chose white girls because a) they are racists and b) they know the British ruling class had the same views due to its snobbery.

    Both Muslim and Establishment groups have expressed zero upset at the horrors of this mass rape and exploitation. They are far more concerned with ‘community relations ‘ and ‘Islamophobia’ than mass child rape.

    The heart of the problem is with Britain’s Pakistani Muslim community and its culture, which is misogynistic, racist and ethically about 1,000 years behind ours. Or perhaps more accurately the heart of the problem is the British Establishment which has aided and abetted these people in degrading not just those poor girls but our very culture.

  12. I’m prepared to think that one or a few Chief Constables might have been spineless. But to think that all or nearly all of them were gutless is a bit of a stretch. This smells of ‘guidance’ from on high. And probably not political heights because a succession of Home Secretaries would have to have been spineless too.

  13. IIRC David Goodhart in The British Dream identified not Pakistanis in general but a subset who were encouraged to relocate to the UK to facilitate the construction of a dam. These were indeed mostly illiterate peasants and religious bigots,, in contrast to the majority of Pak immigrants, more urban and urbane.
    The book came out around 2013 as the grooming scandal was just starting to make the news, yet I don’t remember Goodhart making a specific connection.

  14. Might end up posting twice due to the site saying I’m posting too quickly…

    It would seem an opportune time to try to get the government to do something about this. Obvious one is a petition on the Parliament web site – if you can get 100,000 signatures then they can’t ignore it. Could get it proposed and seconded here and then make comments in the like of Spiked to get more attention. Perhaps Tim could also do something on CT?

    First problem – rejection – how to word it so they can’t dismiss it out of hand?
    Second – there has been at least one previous petition along similar lines (https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/212467) which references a previous initiative on government in this area (https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/tackling-child-sexual-exploitation-progress-report). This (probably purposely) avoided the racial aspects of CSE.

    So, could it be worded so that a national debate/inquiry was initiated into the impact of certain members of the Pakistani community which are defeating the integration of their culture into British society by their disdain for young white girls and how it is risking a backlash from the ordinary man-in-the-street?

  15. I know British people with Pakistani ancestors who said (paraphrasing): my granddad came here to become an accountant/doctor/architect, to breath the free air of England, and get away from the troglodites, and now they’re encouraging the people we fled to come after us.

  16. Andy Burnham was on Radio5 on Tues night. He was given a very soft ride by the lady presenter who was very grateful for him taking the time to spread platitudes.
    Burnham rather clunkingly avoided mentioning which ethnic group was responsible but instead insisted that the GMP operatoon was closed down “due to lack of resources.” Almost as if mass rape was somehow not a very high priority !

  17. MC

    “I wonder how much stomach there is to deal with this. It’s unfair to pick on one person but the Raedwald blog (which seems both decent and sound) is good evidence of the cowardice of the right on this matter.”

    Oh, the right are almost entirely cowards about everything. Anyone expecting that the Conservative Party are going to become some patriotic party of law and order that bins all the woke crap and stops wasting money is going to be in for a disappointment. It’s all just talk. The best you can say is that they aren’t as bad as Corbyn. They’re propping up an airline FFS.

  18. As I pointed out on Raedwald’s post mentioned above:

    I distinctly remember this issue being raised on the BBC Radio 5 Live forum around 2005 and being firmly stamped on to the point the forum went in to pre-mod and then got canned.

    The death of a Sir Roger reminded me of the Salisbury Review and this case an article by Ray Honeyford in which he warned the not insisting that immigrants are assimilated will end in tears. The way the establishment rounded on him and hounded him out of his job as a headmaster in Bradford was a salutary lesson for anyone else thinking of raising their heads above the parapet. That’s why the right went quiet.

  19. decnine
    January 18, 2020 at 1:44 pm
    “I’m prepared to think that one or a few Chief Constables might have been spineless. But to think that all or nearly all of them were gutless is a bit of a stretch.”

    Whatever their orders from above, not a single one broke ranks to save children from these horrors. Not one fed information to the press, not one wrote an anonymous blog.
    If Chief Constables had all stood up in unison to speak then what politician would have dared publicly silence them?
    How about through ACPO? The Chief Constables are happy to use their little club as a mouthpiece to gob off on anything self-serving, how about for something useful?

    You can quibble over the use of “gutless”,although I wouldn’t, but it’s certainly not a study in courage. “I was only following orders” doesn’t have a noble or sympathetic history as an excuse.
    Of course there is the worse option. That the Chief Constables didn’t need to be leaned on. They were perfectly happy to sacrifice thousands of children to appease Islam and its enablers.

  20. Maggie Oliver believes the law now needs changing so that senior officers who oversee major failures can be charged with misconduct or malfeasance once retired, potentially forfeiting their pensions.”

    This would be a worthwhile aim for any parliament petition. It’d definately focus minds at the top of Plod on the impact of their spineless compliance to PC politics.

  21. The “you’re posting too quickly” flag.

    Repeatedly reloading the page will eventually fox it & allow your comment through.

    But worth copying any post made before hitting “post comment” If it doesn’t accept username or e-mail addy, clicking on the ‘back” button will take you back to a virgin comments field.
    As it just did for me. And I really can’t be arsed with typing out that lot again. Life’s too short. Regrettably, you’ll have to do without my words of wisdom.

    Tim, mate. The current incarnation of your blog is not an improvement on it’s predecessor. On the other hand. As the sole proprietor & tech on my own website, I’m fully aware how obscure the creation of web pages can be.

  22. bis
    I find hitting the back button works ok and keeps the comment after a ‘posting too quickly’ message. Using Chrome on an iPad. But agree, retyping it would be too much effort for my one finger typing skills.

  23. @JuliaM January 18, 2020 at 11:01 am

    +1688

    @PJF

    “Pakistani pedophile rape gangs” is the correct term. They’re still covering for them./

    Yes and Yes

    Search: Brown Smith asian order guidance police

    https://www.change.org/p/the-british-council-inquiry-gordon-brown-jackie-smith-mp-permitting-sexual-abuse

    https://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm?blog_id=68520

    @MC January 18, 2020 at 1:35 pm

    Spot on

    @decnine January 18, 2020 at 1:44 pm

    PM Brown and Home Secretary Smith ordered Chief Constables to ignore Pakistani Child Rapers

  24. @Tim W

    Yes, can’t find QT clip; Newsnight
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uyU3dfd3pE

    As did Laurence Fox on this week’s QT
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD2AJS0g4kw

    Laurence Fox: Woke Culture & Its Celebrity Hypocrites
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIv77x7Z5ic

    Trevor Phillips agrees with Fox: UK’s ‘Megxit’ divide is not about racism …
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-7900563/Just-Britain-healing-new-cultural-war-raging-Megxit-insists-TREVOR-PHILLIPS.html

  25. Edward Lud

    “It is difficult to imagine a more explicit demonstration of the political elite’s hatred for the indigenous people of this country than this.”

    Indeed. Or as someone said, the political classes were purchasing votes with these young girls lives. They very simply didn’t matter.

  26. Mr Yan

    “I think they’ve deliberately drink-fed the investigations one town/city at a time to spread out the bad news and hope that people’s memories are short and they don’t realise just how wide scale the problem has been.”

    If you telly it up it’s likely to be a thousand perpetrators, and ten thousand victims. I believe that is what you can call a rape culture, totally ignored by the feminists. The reasons behind that would be very interesting.

  27. Decnine,
    I would suspect the Prince of Darkness, partly because he invited them, and partly because I don’t like him.

  28. (Let’s have another go at that post)
    I do feel some small sympathy with the powers that be over this issue. They’ve been confronted with a situation they could do little about. Apart from what they’ve eventually been forced to do. Reluctantly bring some of the perpetrators to court, where investigations could produce sufficient evidence to enable convictions. But this is simply one facet of a much greater & intractable problem. Islam is simply incompatible with European culture. As Islam is incompatible with any culture that isn’t Islam. Or, for that matter, as the various strands of Islam are incompatible with each other. It is not a culture that you can live at peace with because it doesn’t want to live at peace with you. It wants to dominate.Unless you’re willing to confront it head on, you can only make concessions to it.

  29. As an aside, it’s worth mentioning that following/participating in Raedwald’s blog is a waste of time. Sure – their blog, their rules – however the slightest deviation from their worldview results in the comment being removed. Not exactly spurring debate by censoring what you don’t like.

  30. They chose white girls because a) they are racists and b) they know the British ruling class had the same views due to its snobbery.

    And also:
    c) if they tried this with girl children from their own culture, they’d be found dead in some dark alley, probably missing some bits.

  31. “Nothing has changed” – Whistle-blower Maggie Oliver talks to Julia Hartley-Brewer

    Greater Manchester Police Chief Constable Ian Hopkins has apologised to the children abused “in plain sight” by the grooming gangs his officers failed to bring to justice.

    He spoke after a damning report revealed senior Greater Manchester Police (GMP) officers and senior officials at Manchester City Council, looking after many of the victims in care, were aware but did nothing to act.

    A police drive called Operation Augusta to tackle street grooming by gangs of Asian males preying on vulnerable teenage girls in Manchester was launched then abruptly closed down by senior officers in 2004.

    His officers are now trying to track down paedophiles 15 years after their victims first told of the abuse.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQpMLrvbr_A

    “There is a prominent male from Luton who has not stopped bringing light to this, for years. The media and establishment have demonised him, called him names and imprisoned him, all for defending children. You who stayed quiet or slandered him, are complicit. You don’t have to be perfect to be a hero!”

    “Although I like Maggie Oliver why, when she says everything Tommy Robinson has said, she is called ‘The Angel of the North’ and Tommy is thrown in jail”

    “Where are the Feminists and “MeToo” movements in this? Their silence is deafening.”

    BBC/C4 burying this ‘inconvenient’ news is inexcusable. Notable how FiFi and rest of panel ignored when Laurence Fox raised it on BBC QT

    Laurence Fox’ on BBC QT
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkHjJqhB3H0

    QT Fox
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1_ptTrBOYM
    @1min 37sec The ‘Black’ Edge Hill University ‘Professor” of Grievance Studies
    She’s as not Black as Markle. Daughter of Pocahontas Warren?

    Edge Hill University – whut? Sounds like a Tom Sharpe novel
    Formerly Toxteth Remedial School?

    Here’s a proper complaint letter to the BBC about Rachel Boyle

    Steve – Roll on 31st January @StevenGosforth

    My official complaint to the BBC regarding Question Time on Thursday 16th January 2020, in relation to their employee Rachel Boyle and her “deep rooted issues with white people in the United Kingdom” and why BBC employees should not be passed off as “Audience Members”
    https://twitter.com/StevenGosforth/status/1218892202358734848

    QT Nick Griffin on indigenous
    https://youtu.be/bQE0QPFoLfs?t=466

    @Chris Miller January 19, 2020 at 11:02 pm

    +1

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