It’s not complex at all Luv

Is it problematic for white models to wear cornrows or “wigs like an Egyptian”? The answer is: “Sometimes; maybe; it depends.” What constitutes cultural appropriation is complex and nuanced.

It’s bollix.

In an apology, the stylist, Julien d’Ys, seemed to suggest that the wigs weren’t meant to be cornrows – a traditionally black hairstyle – but a nod to Egyptian pharaoh hair, to which the internet replied: why not use Egyptian models?

One good reason for that is that there aren’t any Ancient Egyptians around to be models. Partly because of time and partly because of the Arab conquest. The closest we’ve got to an indigenous culture there is the Coptic one which won’t fly well with the usual suspects who do the cultural monitoring.

On the other hand, you have bigots who seem to think it is clever to say things such as: “Non-white people wearing suits is cultural appropriation.”

By the standards of corn rows it is Luv. As is a Palestinian using English….

25 comments on “It’s not complex at all Luv

  1. Is it problematic for white models to wear cornrows or “wigs like an Egyptian”? The answer is: “Sometimes, yes, if it suits us tactically to exploit it for political ends, or someone from the tribe has done it in error and we wish to defend them.”

    I think this is more honest

  2. After being pulverised in the General Election, the Guardian goes back to the comfort food of insane metropolitan identity politics.

  3. If there is a problem its the health of those models, they look ghastly and in need of a decent hamburger and fires.

  4. “By the standards of corn rows it is Luv.”

    True, and so obviously true.

    Arwa- ‘ah i see my reasoning can lead to the wrong conclusion. It’s not faulty reasoning, oh no. Ah nearly at my word count, no space to explain any of that here let’s just say its complicated and nuanced.

  5. As the Willendorf Venus shows, Europeans have been wearing cornrows for at least 30,000 years.

  6. Rob’s comment is spot on.

    The only thing that surprises me is that this “cultural appropriation” thing still has the ability to motivate people to fake emotional responses. It has been so comprehensively ridiculed that I thought it had been killed off even at the Guardian.

  7. It has been so comprehensively ridiculed that I thought it had been killed off even at the Guardian.

    A qualification for writing in the Groan is a complete lack of awareness – self or otherwise. Flogging dead horses is a speciality. They believe this cack and assume erroneously that their woke politics is accepted as the norm in the outside world. The reaction to Laurence Fox, like the general election a few weeks previously, is a slap in the face but dismissed as right wing populism and an aberration that needs correcting. The self delusion is incredible, but they manage it somehow.

  8. Maybe there were some white people in Egypt at the time. That’s always the excuse for shoehorning black people into 18th century period dramas set in Somerset, isn’t it?

  9. There’s reference in Roman writings to Celts ‘wearing their hair like snakes’ which I’m guessing is dreadlocks. Hair naturally becomes matted when it isn’t combed.

    Ancient mainland Greeks, Minoans, Egyptians and Sumerians are depicted in surviving artwork with similar hairstyles.

    But it’s cultural appropriation, you see, from Jamaican Rastafarians a movement which started in the 1930s.

  10. Now that Laurence Fox’s acting career is likely down the leftist shitter (unless he goes the Kevin Sorbo route and gets finance for his own projects) he could still make a living going on TV to counter this sort of woke shite.

    It needs someone to point out:

    1- It is nobody else’s business how someone wears their hair–least of all the business of well off middle class Marxist trash.

    2–The Willendorf statue–as per Arthur the Cat.

    3-That Ancient Egypt was likely full of white folk as BoM4 contends.

    That should do the trick and get Fox a new niche career.

  11. That’s always the excuse for shoehorning black people into 18th century period dramas set in Somerset, isn’t it?

    According to Al Beeb, the Duke of York, fighting at Agincourt was black. Likewise Margaret of Anjou in the Hollow Crown. That’s okay though because reasons. And if you point out that they are exercising double standards, you are a racist. Meh. Water off a duck’s back to quote Laurence Fox.

  12. None of this insanity would matter much if the Guardian were not the journal of choice of the BBC, management in the public sector and the entire teaching “profession”.

    But I look forward to the day when the Manchester Guardian becomes the Islington Freesheet. It can’t be far off.

  13. I met some coptics in Egypt and they do look quite different to the Arab majority. In fact you cannot help thinking they look exactly like the representations of ancient Egyptians which is quite eery.
    I mean 2 dimensional people …what are the chances eh ?Hem hem
    It is a live issue in Egypt of course but as far as I understand it the answer to the “debate” is simple. The Aryan invasion debate in India strikes me a bit that way- I don`t see what there is to debate about but its furiously contested there

  14. “On the other hand, you have bigots who seem to think it is clever to say things such as: “Non-white people wearing suits is cultural appropriation.”…”

    So we’re not talking about what I would recognise as logical argument here.

    This is either simply using a comment piece to smear opponents with random insults, or, worse, someone who has bought into the idea that any disproof of their position can be ignored because not holding the correct view shows that you are a racist who should not be listened to…

  15. The Greek-origin aristocracy that took over Egypt after Alexander (Ptolemies) would have been Caucasian, so white faces in ‘Ancient’ Egypt wouldn’t be unusual.

  16. Would you find coptics used for dispensing spirits in an Egyptian pub?

    OK, I’ll get my Copt…

  17. Egyptian models?

    The number of people with the required build would be tiny. They’re not a tall nation.

    Then you would have to.persuade a largely conservative group of women to behave like harlots (in their eyes) wearing skimpy clothes and being mostly naked back stage.

    You’d be better of going for the Nubian dynasties.

  18. I think we can safely file this one away under “First World Problems”.

  19. @Longrider

    Laurence Fox is a biker ergo not one of the sheeple, but a Freedom Lover

    @Dodgy Geezer

    +1 For the SJW Mob: “White man/person bad”

    Hair, ear-rings, clothes, hats, food… cultural appropriation done

    Next up: “White women wearing Kohl eyeliner is cultural appropriation”

    But Black women bleaching skin, straightening hair, wearing wigs (Abbot & Waters & Hollyoaks) isn’t

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