Hmm, well

He has a particular distaste for the trans rights movement. In a 2017 JRE episode with Shapiro, he describes his radicalization on the issue as stemming from anger at Fallon Fox, a trans woman who competed in women’s MMA fights:

I didn’t have a dog in this fight. I was completely open and liberal about it — until there was a case where a man who had been a man for 30 years became a woman for a little less than two years and then started MMA fighting women. Beating the fuck out of these women, and then not proclaiming that he or she used to be a man … if you ever watch the fights, she wasn’t winning because she was skillful. She was fucking manhandling these women, it was ugly.

This very short paragraph contains all the classic tropes of transphobia: a denial of the authenticity of trans people’s identity, an insinuation that they’re a threat to cis folks, and a claim that they’re using their gender identity to somehow get ahead in life. It is, to quote Rogan, ugly, and one of many such examples when it comes to trans issues.

Someone physically male fighting people physically female, yes, that sounds like something to worry about.

Well, except to the toothsuckers at Vox perhaps.

13 thoughts on “Hmm, well”

  1. These people are fucking mad. They ought to be made to fight this ‘woman’ in the octagon just to see how it feels. Never been punched in the face, most of them, neither literally nor metaphorically.

  2. “an insinuation that they’re a threat to cis folks, and a claim that they’re using their gender identity to somehow get ahead in life.”

    Well Fallon Fox is certainly a threat to cis MMA women.

    “During Fox’s fight against Tamikka Brents, Brents suffered a concussion, an orbital bone fracture, and seven staples to the head in the 1st round. After her loss, Brents took to social media to convey her thoughts on the experience of fighting Fox: “I’ve fought a lot of women and have never felt the strength that I felt in a fight as I did that night. I can’t answer whether it’s because she was born a man or not because I’m not a doctor. I can only say, I’ve never felt so overpowered ever in my life and I am an abnormally strong female in my own right,””

  3. She was fucking manhandling these women…

    Rogan may be “radicalised” on the issue, but not so much that he can’t help use preferred pronouns and come out with absurdities like that. Still, blue-on-blue as they say over there. The longer the left hold to these vicious insanities the longer they’ll be kept away from power and the economy.

    Related – women at a Women’s March can’t say what a woman is:

  4. Well, I suppose Rogan is a cut above the other weed-addled liberal lefties if he realises something is wrong when a sport allows a man to beat up a woman.

  5. Dennis, Tiresome Denizen of Central Ohio

    The is part of the NEW HOTNESS amongst the Bernie Bros… demanding that Sanders reject endorsements from people (like Rogan and Cenk Uygur, for example) who have failed the ideological purity test at some point in their lives. It simply highlights the exclusionary natural of “democratic socialist” politics. Beyond that, most people over here have no idea who Joe Rogan is. Getting his endorsement for president has just about the same impact as having the mayor of Obetz, Ohio throw his endorsement at someone.

    What’s even better about this is that – to the extent it is an election issue at all – the support of trans rights movement is a sure fire loser at the ballot box. What Vox fails to notice – because they are, after all, Vox – was Trumps speech at the March for Life… he’s just won every single vote amongst those for who oppose abortion on demand… which is a somewhat larger voting block than trannies and their supporters.

  6. Never been punched in the face, most of them, neither literally nor metaphorically

    All signs point to yes

    Imagine thinking not wanting to see women being battered to a bloody pulp by Buffalo Bill is evidence that you’re a baddie tho. I’m old enough to remember when feminism was against slapping the missus.

    I reckon PROTECT THE FEMALES/PROTECT THE EGGS is a common instinct of any mammalian species with an evolutionary future, but as Dennis touches on with his observation about abortion, a lot of humans have perverted their instincts into contrasurvival ideology. They’re a living corruption and mockery of everything that is fair and true and honest; the non-fighting Uruk Hai of progressivism.

    What could be a bigger insult to God and Nature than sterilising your genitals and pretending to be a woman, then beating the shit out of actual women? Killing your own offspring.

  7. Bloke in North Dorset

    The left don’t know how to deal with Rogan.

    He’s on the traditional left and supports socialised education, socialised health care, gay marriage and every other cause that the left should support.

    But he’s also prepared to talk to people from the other side of aisle and listen to respect to their arguments, he even goes as far as talking to some on the far right.

    For that he’s alt-right or alt-right adjacent or some other weird description and then he does this and they’re flummoxed.

  8. BiND-
    yeah JR is quite good to listen to on the political stuff. The long format means he’s not trying to prise any admissions out of people or trip them up, no gotchas, But he doesn’t go along with anything that doesn’t make sense. He’s not dim, fairly widely read and can pick up on when someone isn’t making a coherent case. I also like google guy on standby to bring up any forgotten or queried facts.

  9. @Interested

    +1 Mad, yes. Like the “Rapeugee Welcome” women


    exclusionary natural of “democratic socialist” politics

    Guardian’s Joseph Harker “I couldn’t be friends with a Tory”

    Harker reveals a lot about The Guardian & Left

  10. Bloke in North Dorset

    Hallowed Be,

    He’s also very good with people who have massive brains, he’s not scared to say he doesn’t understand and ask them to explain in layman’s terms whilst making them at ease. I’m sure that the best brains love getting invites because it gives them a chance to explain where science is going.

    His episodes with physicist Sean Carroll (who has his own podcast now) and Harvard geneticist David Sinclair are fascinating, and there’s many others.

  11. I can’t understand why women don’t just refuse to compete against trannies. Imagine in the 100m if all the actual women just turned their backs on the pretend woman and declined to run.

    I suppose that would require women to agree on something though.

  12. Rogan fully understands the MMA stuff. He has a Ju-Jitsu black belt and a Brazilian Ju-Jitsu black belt an he is also a UFC commentator. Agree that his political interviews are top notch, he isn’t afraid to ask difficult questions, doesn’t interrupt and will call out the bullshit. His 2 recent podcast interviews with Tulsi Gabbard are both excellent and I recommend listening to the posdcast interview with Ed Calderon.

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