Qualifications, eh?

This is my last column. After 26 years as a staff writer and 20 years – on and off – as a columnist, I’m leaving the Guardian. In April, I take up a post as professor of sociology at Manchester University.

The academic background is, umm, what?

Or are the two, Guardian columnist and professor of sociology, the same thing?

46 thoughts on “Qualifications, eh?”

  1. “As a child my mother used to put on the song Young, Gifted and Black, by Bob and Marcia, put my feet on hers and then dance us both around the living room. “They’re playing our song,” she’d say.”

    Well, two out of three ain’t bad, I suppose…

  2. “In April, I take up a post as professor of sociology at Manchester University. …But I will be liberated from having to have a thought every Thursday”

    Refreshingly honest, really.

  3. One only has to look at recent recruits to City University’s economics faculty to see that academic expertise is no longer a prerequisite for a role in academia, and as someone who is one of that band of people that find racism in a restaurant menu or a ‘spot the ball’ competition, one can be sure that Younge will find a willing audience of Corbynite/ Green and XR sympathisers in Manchester lapping up his thoughts on ‘institutional racism’ and other fictitious concepts that are the bedrock of his journalistic output.

    Certainly good riddance to him, though. A long term purveyor of Marxist twaddle, he is the journalistic equivalent of David Lammy and Diane Abbott, an anti-white racist of some viciousness who excuses his racism on arcane academic grounds and whose prominence is owed solely to his skin colour.

  4. Sociology is no more than grievance mongering given a veneer of objectivity – hence pretty much the same thing as guardian commentary.

  5. Van_Patten,

    Science vs humanities academia is a wide, wide chasm now. I think it’s about feedback loops, and the lack of them in the humanities. Do a shitty job running a veterinary school and Dobbin and Fido die. Do crap teaching of sociology or economics and it’s much less visible. Plus most of them will never use it, anyway. They just want a degree for the doors it’s supposed to open.

    My daughter is interested in biomedical science and the people lecturing in that are smart, serious people.

  6. What a whining Marxist twat Young is.

    Didn’t go back to Barberdoss (sic) because he would have been forced to learn something useful under a determined regime. But in leftist run shithole UK he could ponce about playing hisself.

    And now wicked raciss UK is GIVING the cunt a job at Uni to peddle even more Marxian shite. But we are still raciss monsters.

    He failed to go back to Barbie as a kid. He needs to be sent back for good NOW. Except they wouldn’t want a scum transfusion and wouldn’t let him in.

  7. Gary Younge has a degree in French and Russian from Heriot Watt. He then studied journalism at City University. In 2016, he was appointed a Fellow of the Academy of Social Sciences. And he has been awarded honorary doctorates by Cardiff, South Bank and Heriot Watt universities. All for spewing out his race-hustling leftism in books and journalism.

    TMB

    The “veneer of objectivity” on sociology has long gone. Now, it’s all about qualitative (ie non-numerical) ‘research’ which focuses on meanings, concepts, definitions, characteristics, metaphors, symbols…

  8. Its a bit sad to spend your whole life writing about what colour you are. I only knew the Trojan version of Young Gifted and Black .Its a good song and a good message for 1970 (ish) but that is 50 years ago.
    The worst tokenism right now is going on in the Conservative Party which is rightly fearful of being eternally loathed by the Liberally minded rising middle-classes . In all the back slapping of having taken Bishop Auckland et al, losing St Albans will have been noticed as well

    Sean Bailey … is London`s mayoral candidate because ….
    James Claverly wheeled out to defend Brexit because …

    They may be better politicians than Lennie Henry is a comedian but to actually back and anti-immigrant “Nativist” movement is pretty nauseating

  9. “I will be liberated from having to have a thought every Thursday”

    I tried to post a comment “As often as that?” on the Guardian website. I doubt they’ll post it.

    Mind you it’s proof of just how racist the UK is that a black second generation immigrant who hates the UK and no discernible talent other than expressing his hatred can end up as a professor at a UK university.

  10. Facepainter–by “rising” leftist minded middle classes you mean the public sector parasite class of remainiac twats (inc private “businesses” that suck off the states tit–green subsidy etc).

    They “rise” only as long as the state steals/borrows/prints enough cash to float the cunts. When the gravy train stops and starts rolling back down the incline–as it inevitably must–we will see which of you survive the train wreck.

  11. I’d have thought twenty years of writing Marxist shite was ideal preparation for Sociology. He’ll barely notice the difference.

  12. Bloke in North Dorset

    Doesn’t this, and V_P’s comment, show that most universities are no more than higher education teaching establishments designed to churn out students to meet some arbitrary government target rather than research institutions that pass on knowledge to our brightest?

  13. Just like on TV last night there was a young black lady complaining that the UK was so racist it allowed her to be paid to go on TV to complain how racist the UK was, and continuously interrupting a gentleman who was trying to point out that there were countries that would literally kill her for the colour of her skin.

  14. The only time I remember Gary Younge not looking retarded (seriously, he got his DNA checked by 24 And Me) was when he ran across an even bigger race-baiting idiot in Richard “Heil, me” Spencer.

    Sadly, my pitch to make this the scenario for a new Odd Couplesque sitcom called “Mong and Monger” was turned down by Channel 5.

  15. “With racism, cynicism and intolerance on the rise, wages stagnant and faith that progressive change is possible declining even as resistance grows. Things look bleak”

    It would help if people like him didn’t bloviate about the colour of their skin all the time. He doesn’t have anything to say other than that he is black and that he feels oppressed in some way he cannot describe. He would no doubt claim he is invisible although he looks like a brick privy. Just by being differently coloured and responding to him, I am being racist despite the fact that he is the only one bothered enough about the colour of his skin to bring it to my attention. It is a game that no one wins. Hence its appeal to Lefties

  16. I am delighted Gavin finds present times “bleak”and that the cull of the social sciences departments is not far off, on the grounds that they contribute no net benefit to society.

  17. I was there in college 50 years ago when they stopped teaching us about socialism and started teaching us to be socialists.

    “The long march through the institutions” had begun.

  18. Waiting for BIG or TimN to pop up in despair and remind us that Manchester is a proper top-end internationally renowned university…

    The jump to “professor” without any academic publishing record, how is that even possible? I could understand if he was getting a Research Assistant post with the possibility of working towards a PhD by publication. Or understand a role as some kind of guest lecturer. Professor though?

  19. I only read as far as, “In these bleak times…..”

    Looks like he has been comfort eating to get through them.

  20. Dennis, Etc., Etc., Etc.

    There is no such thing as a “social science”, and anyone who says there is is selling something.

    Sociology is a 20th/21st century version of phrenology.

  21. Dennis, MP for Dunny-on-the-Wold

    The worst tokenism right now is going on in the Conservative Party which is rightly fearful of being eternally loathed by the Liberally minded rising middle-classes .

    Yeah, the Tories are hanging by a thread.

    You don’t have any brains at all, now do you boy?

  22. >Waiting for BIG or TimN to pop up in despair and remind us that Manchester is a proper top-end internationally renowned university…

    It’s fairly renowned.

    The end result of introducing Sociology into Universities will be a world-wide Muslim caliphate.

  23. @Hector

    Well yes it has a pretty decent name for itself, which is why I’m particularly puzzled – there’s no end of young researchers doing PhDs in the social science of racial issues, so even if you think this is a great thing to have a professorship in, why appoint a newspaper columnist with no academic qualification or journal publication record?

  24. “Only the privileged and the naive believe people’s achievements are purely the product of their own genius.”

    True. They need to throw in some hard work, too.

    “Men make their own history,” wrote Karl Marx in The 18th Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte. “But they do not make it as they please; they do not make it under self-selected circumstances, but under circumstances existing already, given and transmitted from the past.”

    Yes. Credit has to be given to those who create all the obstacles, too.

    CM scum suggest that you don’t own your productivity, because government helped.

    Note that people succeed IN SPITE OF government, not because of government.

  25. MBE: The socialist equivalent of the funny handshake process? I find it sad that my alma-mater (actually I was at UMIST but have a University of Manchester degree) should be going down that route. I hope the techies are still like they were then. We had Soc. Soc. and the NUS idiots but we studiously avoided them.

  26. Dennis, even an ignorant cunt like you will recall it seemed impossible that Labour would ever again hold power for most of the Thatcher period and John Major after her . This hegemony furthermore represented a decisive defeat for collectivism accepted by almost everyone bar the extreme left.
    Brexit is no such thing .It has won due to the system ( and the lies told by its race hate mongering stooges), its protectionist and backward looking agenda is by no means accepted . In fact there has been a small majority for remain for the last two years.
    This is why Johnson is tacking fast to the centre, borrowing on a grand scale. The manner of the referendum has alienated moderate opinion beyond repair , the willingness to ally with British and European Fascists, to stir the worst irrational and stupidest of instincts will not soon be forgotten
    We are in uncharted waters but the extremism of Brexit must cannot escape t the rules of political gravity in the end and even if you do not know it , the people pushing its black MPs onto the stage certainly do

  27. “Brexit is no such thing .It has won due to the system ( and the lies told by its race hate mongering stooges)”

    Goody-goody. We did our best. Nice to see it paying off in the form of your newly-torn one.

  28. Mind you, if Mr in Spain is right, you, Newmania, could be a Johnsonite plant, placed here to persuade us we’re leaving. Using your tears.

  29. Dennis etc., etc., etc., Sociology is a 20th/21st century version of phrenology.

    Would that it were so but sociologists are widespread and influential throughout public services and public policy making whereas the bumps in your head would never have kept you out of the stocks or the poor house.

    I dare say nobody spends much time wondering how old Newms is but this you will recall it seemed impossible that Labour would ever again hold power for most of the Thatcher period and John Major after her must either have been written by someone who wasn’t alive then or who is distorting history for the young and gullible readership here.

    I bet a phrenologist would drool at the prospect of examining Newmie’s skull.

  30. …the Liberally minded rising middle-classes …

    Now that’s a subject I’ve been giving a lot of thought to, of late.
    It seems to me, as AI becomes an increasingly strong tool, it’s exactly that sector will find its jobs being threatened. Rules based distributed data processing & decision making – which so many people, in the sort of job Newmania purports to do, are employed in – is made for AI. Like a lot of administrative work.
    Maybe hanging round the Job Centre will encourage them to shut-the-fuck-up.

  31. The manner of the referendum has alienated moderate opinion beyond repair , the willingness to ally with British and European Fascists, to stir the worst irrational and stupidest of instincts will not soon be forgotten

    And also worth giving a thought: It works if the consensus opinion is with Newmonia’s “Liberally minded rising middle classes”. Yet the consensus appears to be moving towards what he terms the “British and European Fascists “. They’re the -parties gaining increasing electoral support. The “Liberal minded middle classes” are, after all, a minority. It just happens to be the preferred politics of the political, media & academic classes. There’s certainly something being stirred up. But exactly what’s being stirred up’s a different matter.

  32. Brexit means the UK is *leaving* the fascists of Europe.

    You’re the idiot who wants to stay allied to Orban’s Hungary and the Polish nutcases.

  33. Rutherford did his most important experiments at McGill and Manchester.

    Few universities in the world have been host to experiments of comparable importance.

    Turning in his grave, no doubt.

  34. From his article it is clear his mother (no father?) brought him up to believe all whites, laws, institutions are racist and to be hated. He actively refuses to see this isn’t true as evidenced by his own ‘success’

    Manchester Uni will, I hope, come to regret this PC & SJW virtue signalling appointment
    https://www.manchester.ac.uk/discover/news/gary-younge-becomes-a-professor/

    @Theo

    Degree in French and Russian from Heriot Watt? Heriot Watt was founded to teach STEM to sensible adults

    As a George Heriot’s FP I’m dismayed

    @BiND, jgh, Grist +1

    @Gamecock January 10, 2020 at 12:08 pm

    Fear “The long march through the institutions” was taught to my mother on her 1960-62 teacher training in NI

    She found it hard to believe, but now says “How right he was”

  35. @ Newmania
    As someone who has lived through three Labour governments and most of a fourth (as well as 1979-97) and is neither an ignorant cunt nor like Dennis, I can tell you that it did NOT seem impossible that Labour would ever win another election. The turnout would have dropped to 40% if that had been the case. When John Major was chosen as leader of the Conservative Party many, possibly most, people expected Labour to win the next election. You may be too young to remember John Major speaking to crowds on top of a soapbox (tacky but effective publicity stunt) and the 1992 result showing up the pollsters but I am not.
    If you want to sell nonsense that ignores historical reality, you should post on “Comment is free” not where greybeards can remember the truth and contradict you.

  36. @John77

    Your memories seem to dovetail with mine. We must both have been abducted by aliens unless Newms is talking nonsense.

  37. Dennis the Erudite and Insightful

    Dennis, even an ignorant cunt like you will recall it seemed impossible that Labour would ever again hold power for most of the Thatcher period and John Major after her.

    Whether I am an ignorant cunt is debatable.

    Whether I am like Dennis isn’t.

    But the point of the matter is this: I never suggested Labour couldn’t recover from this election. What I did was mock you for pulling out an anomaly from that election to use in denying reality.

    Labour is in the weeds. It will remain in the weeks until the Labour Party’s leadership – and ignorant cunts like you – (1) learns to respect those who do not vote as they do, and (2) takes the time and effort to understand their legitimate concerns.

    If all you’re concerned about is maintaining your self-image as an informed voter with the undeniably correct solutions to all political problems via displays of petulant narcissism, then carry on. If you’re serious about understanding why the election went as it did, you should probably shut up and make a good faith effort to discover why so many don’t agree with you.

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