Yeeeehah! It’s this month it happens!

Back in 2006 I asked in The Times:

POLITICIANS would do well to heed the wisdom offered to trainee lawyers: never ask a question if you’re not sure what the answer will be. José Manuel Barroso, the European Commission President, made this mistake on Monday when delivering the Hugo Young Memorial Lecture.

He asked whether we British would prefer to be, with respect to the EU, driving from the centre or “sulking from the periphery”, as though those were the only two alternatives. A third possible response, involving a quick goodbye and a return to independence, would probably rather shock him, although he did very kindly state that the choice is ours.

Well, here’s what I asked:

Which leaves us with the only important question out there. Can we leave yet?

The answer, now, being yes, we can.

Huzzah.

22 thoughts on “Yeeeehah! It’s this month it happens!”

  1. Sounds like the same mistake as the morning after the Referendum vote. If I were you Tim, I’d read what you wrote. “never ask a question if you’re not sure what the answer will be.” Your politicians have been lying to you since Heath & Wilson. The smart money would be on them lying now. There’s no reason to believe the Tory scum are any different from the Tory scum of December 11. Just a few of the names have changed. Save your huzzas for a year or three & see what happens.

  2. “I am a good old rebel
    And that is what I am,
    And for the EU nation,
    I do not give a damn,
    I’m glad we fought agin ’em
    I’m gladder still we won,
    I ain’t apologising
    For anything I done.

    I hate the EU nation,
    And everything they do,
    I hate their Goddamn Treaty,
    And Mastricht too,
    I hate their glorious Union
    That floats upon our cash,
    I hate their starry banner,
    That’s only fit for trash,

    I rode with Nigel Farage
    for 3 years thereabout,
    I watched as Europe’s children
    Were sold for Sauerkraut
    I saw the traitors swarming
    Both from far and near
    The EU is a poison,
    And murders all that’s dear,

    Now we are the winners,
    And they lie in the mire,
    But less we learn the lesson
    Matters still stand dire,
    The scummy left’s still breathin,
    Their evil still unburned
    Unless we move to break them
    Them Devils will return”

  3. Bloke in Costa Rica

    Movie trope: it’s just when they think they’ve killed the monster and they’re all having a breather that the fucker pops up again.

  4. Bloke in North Dorset

    TG,

    Talking of Verhofstadt, did you see the Marr interview? The only interuptions were to help Verhofstadt make his anti-Brexit points, otherwise he was allowed to make his stump speech, something Marr wasn’t prepared to let Boris get away with he claimed in his Spectator Notepad article.

  5. I didn’t know “driving from the centre” was on offer; I thought that was reserved for the French and the Germans.

    Come to think of it, I don’t think the Poles, the Hungarians, the Greeks, the Italians or the Spanish knew it was an option either.

    Could change a few things, that.

  6. The cheer on Question Time that will terrify Corbyn’s Labour

    How brilliant was that cheer on Question Time, Derby, last night [January 2019]? Isabel Oakeshott said Theresa May should just walk away from the EU.

    Fiona Bruce asked her if she meant we should pursue ‘No Deal’. ‘Yes’, said Oakeshott and there it was, instantly, contagiously, the loudest cheer I can remember hearing from a Question Time audience. This was no polite applause or murmur of approval. It was a statement — a noisy, rebellious statement of the people’s continuing and profound attachment to the idea of leaving the European Union, deal or no deal.

    It was a cheer that should echo through the nation. That will chill the bones of the political establishment. Which will rattle a commentariat that ceaselessly pumps out columns on how awful No Deal would be. For this cheer — from an audience in the largely working-class, Labour-leaning city of Derby — was a stark reminder that there are people out there, a great many people, who do not share the political class’s fear of No Deal. Who haven’t been won over by the non-stop fearmongering about No Deal. Who flat-out refuse to buy the media’s horror stories about how No Deal will lead to medicine shortages, and food riots, and chaos in Dover, and plagues of locusts. So much for Leave voters being ‘low information’, easily misled idiots who can be brainwashed by adverts on buses and Facebook memes — this cheer was proof that these people are more than capable of thinking for themselves and resisting the establishment’s ideology of fear around No Deal.

    The cheer will have horrified the political class. All wings of it. For the past few days, political bigwigs, loads of MPs, business leaders and supposedly radical Corbynistas — what a bizarre mix! — have been imploring Theresa May to take No Deal off the table. And yet here was a section of working-class Britain actively cheering No Deal. There could be no clearer illustration of the gaping chasm — the chasm in values, beliefs, political ideals — that now separates the political set from the public. The cheer will have especially devastated Corbyn’s Labour. They have made opposing No Deal their big thing, their chief aim. No Deal will ruin Britain, they cry. And yet here were working-class people whooping for a No Deal with a vigour that is too often lacking in modern politics. Behold one of the most important divides in British politics today — that between the woke bourgeois agitators of Corbyn’s inner circle and the ordinary people who used to make up the backbone of the Labour movement. Maybe Corbynistas will brand these cheerers as ‘gammon’.

    Some will say — they already are, in fact — that this cheer proves how self-destructive the Brexit outlook is. These poor, not very well-educated people don’t realise how much harm No Deal will cause, apparently, including in their own lives and communities and on their economic opportunities. Such foul paternalism! This boils down to saying that the plebs don’t know what they are doing; they’re killing themselves with their own stupidity and it is down to us, the enlightened folk, to save them from themselves. Stop this. The support for No Deal is actually entirely rational. People know what ‘taking No Deal off the table’ really means — it means taking Brexit off the table. People feel that No Deal is now code for Brexit itself, and that anything that restricts the UK’s ability to walk away from the EU will threaten Brexit in its entirety. They are dead right to feel this.

    That cheer told us so much about the state of the nation. Jonathan Swift said:

    ‘It is the folly of too many to mistake the echo of a London coffee-house for the voice of a Kingdom.’

    This is our establishment today. They think their chatter, their fearmongering, their tweeting is the view of the nation, but in many cases it is the precise opposite. Last night, in that cheer, they heard the voice of the kingdom, and it will have terrified them. I hope it did anyway.
    (c) The Spectator

    No Deal Cheered on Question Time
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwk3YMSoMI8

  7. At 11pm on 31st January, let us all celebrate noisily – with victory songs, fireworks, flags, etc. Deafen the Remainiacs with the popping of champagne (or Nyetimber!) corks! Celebrate independence from the corrupt, undemocratic, protectionist Fourth Reich, and proclaim it in every forum – online and offline – to which you have access! Bathe in the tears of Dominic Grievance, Andrew Adonis, Tony Blair, John Major, Jo Swansong! Wallow in the tears of leftists!

    Then take a deep breath and resume vigilance…

  8. There’s got to be a weak joke about Nigel Farage being a racist but I lack the wit to write it. The Brexit Party has the most melanin variation of any grouping in the EP, and the UK contingent on a country basis and this is why racist Sir Nigel is looking forward to our MEPs all being out of work on 1st Feb.
    We’ll be out of the CAP – the perfect outcome would be that every one in Europe is out of the CAP – but still, one more country is not in the CAP = hooray massively.

  9. At 11pm on 31st January, let us all celebrate noisily – with victory songs, fireworks, flags, etc.

    I’ve got my entertainment for that evening lined up already: start with “The Day of the Jackal”, followed up with “The Great Escape”

  10. Deafen the Remainiacs with the popping of champagne (or Nyetimber!) corks!
    The Co-op have a very acceptable pink English fizz for £18 in their ‘Irresistible’ range (from Eight Acres).

  11. @BiW

    Is that all? 633 Squadron, Battle of Britain, Dambusters, Eagle Has Landed

    and

    Guy Martin’s Great Escape

    @Theo

    Yes, vigilance needed – MPs, Public Sector & MSM are still at war with public

  12. @BiW

    Operation Blackbuck (XM607) is uplifting too

    https://www.google.com/search?q=Operation+Blackbuck&source=lnms&tbm=vid

    BBC R4 Drama: Operation Blackbuck

    During the 1982 Falklands War, the RAF staged the world’s longest bombing run, in an attempt to damage the runway at Port Stanley. Using ageing Vulcan bombers, crews flew a round trip of 8000 miles from Ascension Island to the South Atlantic. Such a journey required not just in-flight refuelling, but re-fuelling of the refuelling planes – a hazardous undertaking that had never before been attempted on such a scale

    In this drama, Robin Glendinning recreates the nail-biting adventure. Not only were the raids themselves difficult to pull off, but even getting the aircraft ready for the flights was a major task. Aviation museums across the world were raided for spares, and key parts retrieved from junkyards

    Some question whether or not the operation was militarily useful – or whether or not the same job could have been done more effectively using planes attached to the naval task force. Was this really about war, or was it about the RAF trying to carve out a role for itself in a conflict that threatened to be entirely dominated by the Army and Royal Navy? And how successful were the raids anyway?

    This was the first of several Black Buck missions to show Argentina they could be successfuly hit with a nuclear strike from the Vulcan bomber

    The missions also had a psy-op strategy against the Argentinian conscript military posted to the Falklands as demonstrated in the joke:

    Conscript1 to Conscript2 “… their aircraft carriers must be enomorous to send that huge bomber here, we should surrender now …”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Black_Buck

    BBC Radio 4 14:15 5 Jun 2012 45m
    Operation.Black.Buck.BBC.R4.DAB-Pcar.nfo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAqneOzclSw

  13. Pcar

    That’s interesting – re hitting Argentina – but, despite the raids themselves mostly being militarily ineffective and rather than anything nuclear, I thought that strategically it forced Galtieri to understand that mainland targets in the north of the country, including Buenos Aires itself (much closer to Ascension than the Falklands), could easily be targeted separately by the RAF? Hence, persuading him to move significant numbers of Mirage fighter jets further north as a protective measure, in practical terms relieving the pressure on the task force in the south as a result?

  14. ‘Using ageing Vulcan bombers, crews flew a round trip of 8000 miles from Ascension Island to the South Atlantic.’

    JFC. Fire the navigators. Ascension is in the South Atlantic.

    ‘Such a journey required not just in-flight refuelling, but re-fuelling of the refuelling planes’

    But then who re-fueled the refueling planes that fueled the refuelling planes that fueled the Vulcans?

  15. But then who re-fueled the refueling planes that fueled the refuelling planes that fueled the Vulcans?

    More tankers. Took about a dozen tanker aircraft to get one Vulcan on target.

  16. That Wiki article above shows a graphic of the sequence, about half way down.

    The Wiki article is also pretty dismissive of my comment above about it affecting Argentine thinking re placing fighters?

  17. @PF

    The largest gain, even if unintentional, from Op Blackbuck was scaring the Argie military & public who thought they were safe as UK so far away. The nuke capability escalated the fear and Mrs T had not ruled it out (unlike No no-deal May)

    An early Op Shock & Awe

    @Gamecock: tankers flying back to Ascension, refuelling, then back up to refuel other tankers. If wind had veered North or South during op, all would probably have run-out and ditched. Listen to the radio docu-drama

    A truly B of B and Dambusters style well planned and brave operation using whatever available. I salute all who took part

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