Blimey

We still keep ’em in at this age, do we?

A convicted sex offender has become the first prisoner to die from coronavirus, the Ministry of Justice (MoJ) confirmed last night.

The 84 year old, one of Britain’s oldest prisoners, passed away three days ago at HMP Littlehey, Cambridgeshire.

He is understood to have been suffering underlying health issues and Covid-19 is thought only to have been detected after his death.

Food might be better than the average state OAP home.

19 thoughts on “Blimey”

  1. The first media account did not mention the blokes age. I had to dig–not too much, but still dig–to find his age.

    I hope he wasn’t one of the poor bastards rousted over 50 year old tall tales via Yewtree.

    They had some poor sod of 90+ with Alzheimers jailed at one point. From 50 year old evidence-free accusations.

    If so –another score to settle with Treason May and her creature Saunders.

  2. This is why Craig Murray is a bit loopy. He insists the only reason why Julian Assange is not granted bail is because they want him to die of coronovirus.

  3. Given that Weinstein has come down with Covid, I was speculating yesterday to my other half that it can’t be long till Assange is “diagnosed” with it

  4. I’ve heard it said that if you are in need of some medical attention that you’re on an interminable waiting list for as a free man, you’d be better off getting imprisoned as its against prisoners ‘human rights’ to make them wait for treatment. Whether this is true or not I’ll leave for others to determine……..

  5. “Covid-19 is thought only to have been detected after his death” – so he didn’t really die “from” it then, did he? He died with it. Which is different and interesting. How did he get it? Who else in HMP Littlehey has it and why are they not showing any symptoms?

    I have to say I think this virus is much more widespread than currently thought, and therefore much less lethal, and much less efficacious (from a viral PoV).

  6. “I have to say I think this virus is much more widespread than currently thought, and therefore much less lethal, and much less efficacious (from a viral PoV).”

    Isn’t there some modelling from another source than the one used by the Government (which is Imperial College I think) that is suggesting that up to half the country could already have had CV? And thus the death rate is similar to other ‘bad’ flu epidemics?

    Edit: its Oxford Uni: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03/oxford-study-coronavirus-may-have-infected-half-of-u-k.html

    I wouldn’t be surprised to be honest. There was a nasty bug of some sort flying around just prior to and after Christmas and loads of people I know (including myself) got it. And it was unusual in that it went straight for the chest rather than the usual head/throat/nose type of bugs.

  7. I have to say I think this virus is much more widespread than currently thought, and therefore much less lethal, and much less efficacious (from a viral PoV).

    That’s what I think and there are now bods from Oxford University saying the same thing. If so, it should start tailing off soon, fingers crossed.

  8. Jim said:
    “There was a nasty bug of some sort flying around just prior to and after Christmas and loads of people I know (including myself) got it. And it was unusual in that it went straight for the chest rather than the usual head/throat/nose type of bugs.”

    Yup; I had that one too. Mother caught it (probably) on the ‘plane out to Guernsey, when she was sat next to some banker type who kept sneezing, then I got it from her at New Year. She’s convinced it’s this Chinese plague, and now they think it first popped up in November it’s quite possible that an international banker had picked it up from Chinese clients.

    That could explain why I’m now fine despite the wife probably having it (I say “probably” because when the doctor sent her to hospital, the hospital examined her but sent her home saying she probably did have it but they were short of testing kits and she wasn’t bad enough to waste one on – that would explain why Dorset has so few reported confirmed cases).

  9. A virus has no intentionality, it does not mean to kill you. Take the common cold as an example. It loses when it kills its host, because it can no longer propagate, It suffers a competitive disadvantage when it confines its host to bed. It wins when it’s so mild its host struggles in to work to infect his co workers. Thus over time the less virulent bugs beat the virulent mutations. Eventually bugs can become symbiotes, like those commonly found in the gut.

    We see this in history, with waves of plagues, each less mortal than the last.

    This virus will behave no differently it’s just at the stage of not being house trained yet. Give it time.

  10. I’ve been doing IT work in multiple GP practices for the last six months, and in January had horrible sniffles, was going through two packets of Lockets a day and getting really frustrated when finding the local shop only stocking soothing lozenges not ones with the force-your-sinuses-open-with-a-crowbar menthol hit.

    I put it down to picking up all sorts of lurgie from hanging around dozens of sickly patients. I don’t remember having the reported Corvid symptoms, but I was left with a mild cough for some time – but again, I just put that down to the dust I was kicking up moving PCs and crawling under dersks.

    The contract ended 10 days ago so I’ve been effectively self-isolated due to unemployment.

  11. jgh:

    “I don’t remember having the reported Corvid symptoms…”

    Developing dark plumage, a hoarse sounding caw, and an attraction for shiny objects?
    🙂

  12. Per Hector Drummond–Ferguson–govt science genius –now says only 20 thousand tops–mostly ill and infirm–are going to die not the hysterical half million–so a normal bad flu year.

    As Hec points out they are lining up to claim the Lockdown did it–to try and save Blojo IMO.

    Which is a bind–2 days have already caused 105 thousand UC claims. The full 3 weeks will do vastly more damage. But they might have a chance to say LD saved us. And thus save Blojo.

    If thery minimise economic damage NOW by stopping lockdown –then it is obv Bloj blundered. But saves many more jobs etc.

    They all blundered –was there a single NO vote against the lockdown tripe? But they have short memories and Bloj might have to carry the can

    I don’t want that despite despising Johnson–because the rest are fucking worse.

    Quite a dilemma for the political piggies eh?

  13. Bloke in North Dorset

    The report the FT refers to starts with the “assumption that only a very small proportion of the population is at risk of hopitalisable illness”.

    Latest data also appear to show that the age related morbidity is exactly the same as for normal life so individual risk is relatively low. It also shows that the disease as far more infectious than normal ‘flu and is more serious.

    This isn’t about how many people will die in a year, its about all those people (and more) dying in the 6 weeks.

  14. BinD–It is about all the people who will be ruined in the next 6 weeks and likely years to come–and many who will die because we can’t afford as much health/advanced health care as before.

    Which is why this bloody silly circus needs to stop NOW. If Blojo can use soft-core martial law to bully the rest of us –he can use it to stop the nonsense and hopefully preserve his govt . Things won’t be the same again but still better than being fucked up by replacement worse PMs.

  15. BiND “his isn’t about how many people will die in a year, its about all those people (and more) dying in the 6 weeks.”

    This is another of those weasel shifts, like ‘if it’s not the end of the world this year it will be back next year’, ‘saving the NHS’ —saving its face more like. The latest I’ve heard: it will be a peak in two weeks: the funeral service will have to be shortened, crematoria will have to work overtime.

    Sorry I don’t buy it. On the other hand this via FoS: Updated data implies that UK modelling hugely overestimates the expected death rates from infection

  16. Locally they have freed up 3,500 hospital beds by sending everyone home and cancelling all non-essential treatment. Population is in lockdown and even parks are closed
    So far there’s less than 500 cases and only 15 in ICU currently with 15 deaths, 10 of the deaths are all from one long term care home.
    Possibly they have pulled the trigger to early, but I worry about the situation continuing for too long because politicians won’t want to admit they are wrong, especially with the media desperately looking for a gotcha moment and the criticism of Trump if he exits early may cause others to drag their feet.
    I’m thankful that Trump at least seems less concerned about playing the media’s game, if he has enough advice to ease up he will take the risk of proving media wrong and others will reluctantly have to follow

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