Err, why bother?

Scramble for childcare in Madrid as schools closed over coronavirus

Why stop children congregating in schools if you’re just going to have them congregate in childcare centres instead?

12 thoughts on “Err, why bother?”

  1. Bloke in North Dorset

    There was a good piece on the R4 World at One yesterday which I just caught. Some professor that advises the government on how people react made a few good points:

    1. Closing down schools means that children will be abandoned, grandparents will be put at increased risk, health care workers will be taking time off and children will soon get bored and find ways to start congregating in parks or each other’s houses.

    2. Closing down sporting events (mostly aimed at Cheltenham Gold Cup) means that people will just congregate elsewhere, usually in pubs where they are more at risk. They might as well be outside in a field enjoying themselves.

    3. If the government goes to the next phase, delay, too early people will lose faith in the experts advising the government and will soon get bored and start ignoring advice, which will defeat the object.

    I find it difficult to say, but I think the government has managed the crises quite well, so far. My only gripe is that they aren’t explicit in stating that the virus cannot be stopped, only delayed, to counter idiots claiming we should go in to lock-down to stop the virus.

  2. The Meissen Bison

    Why stop children congregating in schools if you’re just going to have them congregate in childcare centres instead?

    Because it’s the state that’s responsible for the school closures and the parents who are looking for the childcare.

  3. BiND,

    If there’s one event I’d avoid, it’s Cheltenham for the racing. I’ve been on a quieter day and it’s rammed. Not only packed bars and packed bookies, but the traffic between them is people moving like sardines. I’m still doing cinemas. I mostly go off-peak to avoid the twats who sit on their phones anyway, so it’s me and 3 other people in the screening.

  4. BiND
    Was that the guy Ballance/Vallance? Heard him the other day and he actually seemed sensible and grown up. Clearly, he’ll be drowned out by the apocalyptic, stock up on bog roll, close down the country brigade. And watch the lefty’s (BBC et al) turn on the government as soon as cases reach a certain level, even if the measures that are being taken reduce the spread of the disease.
    Once the panic is over, any review that shows Boris did the right thing will be buried on page 36, with the slightest mistake front page news.

  5. Bloke in North Dorset


    No, it was a women. I’ve tried to track her name down and short of listening to the program on iPlayer I can’t find her name.

  6. Bloke in North Dorset

    Yes, that was her.

    I’ve just been out for a walk a listened to this Joe Rogan episode on podcast, which I highly recommend.

    #1439. Michael Osterholm is an internationally recognized expert in infectious disease epidemiology. He is Regents Professor, McKnight Presidential Endowed Chair in Public Health, the director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP), Distinguished Teaching Professor in the Division of Environmental Health Sciences, School of Public Health, a professor in the Technological Leadership Institute, College of Science and Engineering, and an adjunct professor in the Medical School, all at the University of Minnesota. Look for his book “Deadliest Enemy: Our War Against Deadly Germs” for more info.

    As well as Covid 19 the cover Chronic Wastage Disease, which I hadn’t heard of, pro-biotics, Lyme disease and a few other things.

    They discuss some of the myths around Covid 19 and how bad it really is – its bad – and what steps can be taken to reduce risk, not much, where it came from and the risks from future infections.

    Unless you’ve a strong stomach don’t watch the video.

  7. Creches have fewer clients than schools. So mathematically transmission will be reduced if creches replace schools, and contagion is contained in smaller cohorts. Economic too: in case of a case, you test 10 contacts not 500.

  8. There has been some world-beating BS advocated and legislated about this virus.
    Michigan (see above) in lock down with two cases. Italy brining in Tsarist internal passports. Italy locking down prisons and calling out the army to suppress the resulting riots when it could be deployed to do something useful.
    My favourite is the CDC trying to impose travel bans on OAPs.
    Think about it. Young people can be symptom free and infect thousands. OAPs get symptoms and likely sooner than old people. So you discover viral hotspots sooner and more accurately.
    The CDC would have banned the use of canaries in coal mines.
    To his credit Trump told them to take a hike.

  9. @BiND

    “Unless you’ve a strong stomach don’t watch the video”

    What video? Link is a book. Video link please

  10. @BiND

    Thanks. Two blokes talking, can’t see a need for ‘strong stomach’ – am I missing something?

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