American progressives

The Coronavirus Deniers and Their War on Expertise
Anything they don’t want to believe is simply discarded as partisan.

by Nancy LeTourneau

OK.

We Have No Idea How Many Coronavirus Cases There Are in the U.S.

by Nancy LeTourneau

That sure is a hell of a lotta expertise on show there.

The solution being that we should listen more to the experts, right?

30 thoughts on “American progressives”

  1. Dennis, Whose Own Mental Health Is Never In Doubt

    Sure. There’s Sean Penn, Rosie O’Donnell, Bette Midler, and Alyssa Milano, for starters. Then throw in Rob Reiner, Cher and Ron Perlman…

    Maybe we can find an autistic 16 year-old with a history of depression…

  2. In my career I listened to experts all the time. However, you have to keep in mind the older Hunter Thompson statement that “when the going gets weird the weird turn pro”. There are experts and there are hucksters, and these times are made for both. Gotta’ be careful to try and tell them apart.

    This is a particularly bad virus to catch and has a higher chance than usual of killing you, though that seems to be about as far as the probabilities are understood. I certainly don’t want to get it. However, it is also obvious that those who want a command and control society see this as the best chance they’ll ever have to accomplish it. Ordering people to stay home, or out of parks, or off the beach is heady stuff. Those who are doing this are not going to give it up easily.

  3. “The Coronavirus Deniers

    That term didn’t take long to get repurposed from the Climate discussion, did it?

  4. “about as far as the probabilities are understood”: you can add the vulnerability of the old and ill.

  5. @TD ‘ This is a particularly bad virus to catch and has a higher chance than usual of killing you,‘

    Is it? Based on what data?

    Around 95% of reported cases are mild, deaths are few when ‘underlying conditions’ are removed from the numbers, deaths, it leaves the young alone, are among the elderly.

    The number of reported cases is less than 1% of population – after two to three months – meaning that either it is not spreading quickly or if it is victims are asymptomatic, or symptoms so mild as not to be worth reporting.

    Particularly bad… given a choice a particularly good one to catch.

  6. The experts in the UK, the ones influencing government, have been recalibrating their estimates of fatalities from 500,000 to 200,000 to 6,000-ish. That alone should suggest the experts are flailing as much as the rest of us.

    Another UK expert, the deputy CMO, was telling us earlier this week that the UK ought to be locked down for six months, demonstrating that while she might know more than us about medicine, she knows the square root of fuck all about economics and human nature.

    Six months on lockdown and the UK would be a damper version of Mad Max.

  7. It’s time you bigots learned to respect SCIENCE, such as that the planet will catch fire unless you eat bugs and vote socialist and there are 57 genders.

  8. Dear Nancy is just creating her novel “I hate Trump” speech. It’s in her job description.

    Details don’t matter. Points are for declaring unique reason for hating Trump.

    In old Leftard legacy press, one finds the right reason for hating, and it gets the person on the Right thrown under the bus. Canceled. Fired. Embarrassed. Forgotten.

    Didn’t work with Trump. He told ’em to FO. Four years, and millions of tries later, they are still looking for that kill shot.

    They are untrainable. Same old failed play book.

  9. @Dennis
    Maybe we can find an autistic 16 year-old with a history of depression…

    You’re in luck today! I’m identifying as one today.

    How may I help you?

  10. Woken SS Tank Commander Andrew C

    I am disappointed with Woke Steve’s comments.

    Even if you vote Socialist and eat bugs, you are only postponing the destruction of the earth by a rolling time period of 10 years. We must act NOW before it is TOO LATE. It IS too late.

    Henceforth cars must be pulled by horses which are powered by windmills. You have STOLEN my future. Please post it back.

    There are 92 genders.

    You like my uniform? It’s a fanny magnet.

  11. Woken Sturnbahnfuhrer from Lower Hutt

    I am disappointed with Woken SS Tank Commander Andrew C comments

    Horses should not be oppressed in the way you suggest (I presume that as most horses are brown this just highlights your unconcious waycism), neither for that matter should cars be forced to relocate. If cars wanted to move they would do so under their own free will and we need to respect their expressed desire to remain stationary.

    There are 104 genders.

    I do like your uniform but that is not to suggest that it is any better or worse than any other uniform. Prizes for uniforms all round as everyones effort need to be rewarded equally regardless of outcome.

  12. Woken SS Latrine Cleaner Andrew C

    @Woken Sturnbahnfuhrer from Lower Hutt

    My apologies. I will report for corrective learning as soon as the lockdown is over.

    Heil Thunberg!

  13. Meanwhile, my golf pro called to say the course is closed til further notice.

    This s#|+ is getting personal !!!!

    (We’re scrambling to find alternative courses to play. It may not be The End just yet.)

  14. Bloke in North Dorset

    Another UK expert, the deputy CMO, was telling us earlier this week that the UK ought to be locked down for six months, demonstrating that while she might know more than us about medicine, she knows the square root of fuck all about economics and human nature.

    No, she said some measures might still be in place. Frankly, if I never hug a person a hardly know again it will be a result.

  15. “Frankly, if I never hug a person a hardly know again it will be a result.”

    Get some perspective. This ain’t our first pandemic; it won’t be the last. People shook hands after the Black Death. So will we.

  16. “No, she said some measures might still be in place.”

    I think what she said was that SOME measures might be in place for UP TO six months.

    This was of course reported as “Britain to be in lock down for six months”

  17. Dennis, On The Front Lines Fightin' Them Chlorinated Chickens

    How may I help you?

    Please scold the world’s leaders about their response to the virus.

    Except China.

    Focus on Trump and Johnson to whatever extent possible.

  18. Dennis, Woker'n The Rest Of You Fucks

    Meanwhile, my golf pro called to say the course is closed til further notice.

    Same with my gun range.

    First world problems are still problems, you know.

    There are only 67 genders, and sadly none of them involve a vat of lime jello and a cattle prod.

  19. OH, gun range closed weeks ago. Then sent me my dues notice.

    I’ll be checking if my golf club charged me my dues anyway.

    Boat at marina still usable. Motorcycle still usable. They are closing in on me.

    Kenny Rogers’ Just Dropped In doesn’t sound so surreal now.

    “I pushed my soul in a deep dark hole and then I followed it in
    I watched myself crawlin’ out as I was a-crawlin’ in”

    “Someone painted “April Fool” in big black letters on a “Dead End” sign”

  20. Gamecock

    “Someone painted “April Fool” in big black letters on a “Dead End” sign”

    That was my thought. I looked at the news this morning and….

  21. “The Coronavirus Deniers“ – The Left

    That’s not social distancing

    Three Weeks ago: Pelosi, Khan, Left “social distancing” is racist, xenophobic, discrimination – hug a Chinese

    Left Now? Close every business, except in RoP areas. Khan is the biggest little clown in the UK

    Potential “speed recovery” tweet: removed – orangemanbad

    Guess this proves being a so called racist is actually more beneficial than diversity

    @TD

    Really? Do you have mortality figures to support that?
    Don’t forget ~1,680 die in UK every day (ONS)

    @MC, Hector

    +1

  22. @Gamecock

    MSM – Bad
    Donald Trump says he’s a cheerleader for US, acknowledges downplaying crisis “to give people hope”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLEmYB55bGY

    MSM – Good
    Prince Charles a cheerleader for UK, downplaying crisis “to give people hope”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIYu-vUHHdY

    @Gamecock April 1, 2020 at 8:42 pm

    Wimbledon cancelled – Why? Golf, Tennis self-isolation sports

    Bike: Stockpile petrol – PHE say too many cars on roads, petrol stations should be closed to all but us ‘essential’

    Petrol stations respond: FO, we’re already suffering, do that and we’ll close

    @BiND

    – Current restrictions could last for Six Months or even longer – UK deputy chief stasi medical officer
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrZIHw372n0

    In Gov speak could=will same as advice=must (or fined)

  23. This table regarding the Coronavirus was published on Real Clear Politics today.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/coronavirus/

    Thee is considerable variation in the mortality rate between countries which suggests that there are probably a lot of errors, undercounting or whatnot. So, it’s perfectly reasonable to say that no one really knows just how deadly this virus is, but there does seem to be evidence that it’s worse than most colds.

    But for those who want to catch it, hey, have at it.

  24. Madness Report

    – World Health Organization praises China, denies Taiwan’s existence
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu3lm0W6saU

    – WHO chief praises, covers for China
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1a4Pq5GQBc

    WHO spread CV-19 by denying travel bans needed. Why? Racist and Xenophobic

    WHO is another part of swamp that needs draining. I hope Trump speaks more openly about Taiwan and invites their leaders over..
    oh and gives $0.00 to W.H.O

    – Great News – Not
    ‘Wet markets’ reopening across China
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPRkZbGvRsg

    – Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham calls for closure of Chinese wet markets
    https://youtu.be/fOPgfPZxm1Q?t=215

    PS @TD Are daily, weekly, monthly all deaths significantly higher than normal?

    In UK up to last week it was No

  25. TD-Colds kill 4500 Americans ev year and hospitalises thousands more. So –likely not by very much is coro “deadlier” if at all.

    We will still do far better with a functioning economy that without one.
    Protect the vulnerable –inc effective masks–and get everybody else back to work–also with masks. They must be easier to make than ventilators–produce them instead of buying tat from our CCP enemies.

  26. Bloke in North Dorset

    “ Get some perspective. This ain’t our first pandemic; it won’t be the last. People shook hands after the Black Death. So will we.”

    I don’t mind shaking hands, that’s a long tradition here, it’s hugging that I don’t like.

  27. Nancy gives declarations of orthodoxy. There are who saids of the greatest authority. She gives them credence. YOU must too.

    ‘War on Expertise’

    Exactly. We learned from the Johnstown Flood – 1889 that it was deadly to trust the experts. History repeats . . . over and over again.

    Her public pronouncements that we must trust the experts reveals her serious character flaws. It is ignorant and dangerously stupid. In other words, journalism.

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