Dear Ms. Hirsch

If coronavirus doesn’t discriminate, how come black people are bearing the brunt?
Afua Hirsch

The failure in your argument is that coronavirus does discriminate. As do all diseases that humans are prey to.

Some of us have immune systems that will laugh in the face of this infection here, but will succumb in an instant to that one over there. Others are vice versa. That’s actually what genetic diversity means. It’s how evolution itself works, the environment culling those who are not fit for that environment. It’s what Matt Ridley meant by “The Red Queen”, our immune systems have to run ever harder to stand still against the mutation of things that would like to come eat us. Most European indigenes are pretty much immune to bubonic plague these days as the genes that left people susceptible were culled when a third of the people died of it 650 years ago.

Now, whether coronavirus discriminates specifically either for or against those genes which manage melanin enhancement is unknown and it does seem most unlikely. But across the genetic endowments of the varied subgroups of our species – no, let’s not call them races – there will, absolutely, be some who are more likely to be the prey of this virus and some less so. Just because that’s how genetics works.

All diseases, just like all environments, discriminate. It’s just what they discriminate about that changes.

Now that we’ve got that out of the way what was your point again?

30 thoughts on “Dear Ms. Hirsch”

  1. On the wireless they were complaining about “poor black people” being hit worse. Are they beign hit worse because they is black or because they are poor? In the US being black highly correlates with being poor, and everywhere being poor highly correlates with being suseptable to diseases, so are they just saying “poorly people get poorly”?

  2. And diabetes discriminates against fat people, and cancer discriminates against old people, and…

  3. “Poor people are poor people –
    And they don’t understand
    A man’s got to make whatever he wants-
    And take it with his own hands.
    Poor people stay poor people –
    And they never get to see
    Someone’s got to win in the human race-
    If it isn’t you, then it has to be me.”

  4. The victims of the virus are two-thirds male, does Afua GAF about that?

    Are the data controlled by lifestyle choices? Or are the major factors where you live, what you do, and whether your are bold or cautious in your daily life decisions? Or is it use of public transport that is the clue?

  5. Several possible explanations:
    * genetics/race
    * behaviour
    * geography
    * poverty
    * comorbidities

  6. Jgh – there was a lot of talk on Black Twitter about how African descended folks are supposedly immune to Chinee Flu. Twitter isn’t real life, but it’s not unlikely black fellas in America didn’t take this thing seriously. Some of their cousins in Africa still believe showering prevents GRIDS.

    Also a lot of blackpipo are huge chonkers, on account of wypipo oppressing them into eating KFC instead of healthy like what Wakandans do.

  7. My South African mate was telling me that just a few weeks ago all the blacks there were all openly laughing that it was a “White person disease” and thus not doing anything to prevent contagion themselves . Whoops.

  8. But from the outset, we should also have been talking about race.

    This is as refreshingly unexpected as Newmania wanting to cry talk about Brexit.

    A study of more than 2,000 patients critically ill with the virus in England, Wales and Northern Ireland has found that 35% are black, Asian or other ethnic minority. This is more than double the representation in the wider population.

    I thought you wanted more “representation”?

    The first four doctors who lost their lives as a result of treating Covid-19 patients in the UK were all Muslim men

    Inshallah.

    This may reflect the fact that the NHS has always been heavily dependent on ethnic minority staff

    Oceania has always been chock full of effniks, and if you disagree here’s a film about how Mary Queen of Scots was surrounded by BAMEs.

    For the NHS to at that moment appear staffed only by white people, is profoundly dishonest, a true whitewash.

    If you look at the list of doctors struck off for incompetence or abuse tho, it’s diverse as fuck:

    https://www.mpts-uk.org/hearings-and-decisions/medical-practitioners-tribunals

    This week the #CharitySoWhite campaign issued an urgent call for action over the disproportionate impact of the virus on Britain’s minorities.

    Step 1 – move to the wypipo countries
    Step 2 – relentlessly badger and insult the wypipo
    Step 3 – ???

    As we have seen time and time again, when government policy claims to be race neutral it ignores the fact that some groups need additional protection or support.

    Groups such as lower class white children in Rotherham, Oxford, Bristol, Newcastle, Glasgow, etc.

  9. Surreptitious Evil

    There’s some comment here about it being likely to serious hit the UK Pakistani community. A combination of endemic hypertension and diabetes, and failure to social distance while observing religious obligations. And, of course, inshallah and a good dose of “your damned heathen laws don’t apply to [email protected]

  10. It might be as simple as relatively higher numbers of infections in London. Which is very diverse. She is a horrible race baiter – which in a just society would be hate crime.

  11. My thought was sickle-cell anaemia among Afro-Caribbean and several generations of first cousin marriage among south Asians. Those would skew the numbers.
    But then, I have no medical training so my view is worthless.

  12. Imagine if you took a leaf from Woke Twitter tho, and launched a #BrownPeopleSoFragile hashtag. Wonder how many coppers would be assigned to the investigation.

  13. All of them. Except those assigned to find Maddie McCann, of course.

    But that wouldn’t leave any to man the roadblocks, demanding to see our papers.

  14. Every now and again, just when I start to think The Guardian can’t really be as stupid as it is made out to be, I go and read it and find out that it is even more stupid than I had been led to believe.

  15. “The greatest diversity in all of the 25,000 genes that make up the human genome is in our few immune system genes,” Davis explains. “That means that the genes that vary most between us all are the ones that influence the immune system.”
    Obviously he was promoting his book (The Compatibility Gene) at the time but he is a Professor of Immunology. A real one.

  16. Higher melanin levels reduce vitamin D production
    Vitamin D is linked to the efficiency of the immune response
    There is a reason why evolution favoured reduction of melanin production in northern latitudes
    Perhaps we are seeing an example

    Perhaps taking a multivitamin makes sense

  17. Anonymong

    “Vitamin D is linked to the efficiency of the immune response”

    Excellent. So sunbathing helps save lives. Will someone tell the idiots (and particularly those wearing uniforms).

  18. So it’s Boris’s Turkish descent that explains his illness, is it?

    Odd: she seems to me to be the sort of twat who would celebrate his being ill.

  19. El Draque
    April 9, 2020 at 9:36 am

    My thought was sickle-cell anaemia among Afro-Caribbean and several generations of first cousin marriage among south Asians. Those would skew the numbers.
    But then, I have no medical training so my view is worthless.

    Sickle cell is actually an *adaptive* measure for those living in areas where malaria is. For those with only one copy of the gene, they are more malaria resistant. Be the one in whatever that gets two copies though and you get sickle cell anemia.

    Its why sickle cell trait hasn’t burned itself out long ago – the children who survive due to having it greatly outnumber those who die from SCA.

  20. Covid-19 Racist? Some of us have already reported genetic difference* here

    Tuesday C4 NEWS pic of latest 10 NHS staff deaths: 1 white. At least USA is finally warning black/brown they’re more at risk when it’s been known since early March

    Dr Fauci says health disparities in the African American community are ‘unacceptable’
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pceu9FuhSnQ

    Weak speech, tip-toes around genetic disposition by implying discrimination

    Some how the media is going to blame CV19 on racism and Trump. AOC soon to start flapping about how the Corona virus is racist

    The Coronavirus is Definitely Racist /sarc
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StEJcuNsW_I

    Black woman is deluded – a BA Grievance Studies I assume

    Black Guy calls for what I said in prev post: inform Black/Brown, but should have over a month ago. Left ideology killing peeps yet again

    “We’re getting infected more because our bodies have borne the chronic dis-investment in our communities”. That’s a strange way of saying “Haven’t taken personal responsibility for my health now I’m reaping the consequences”.

    Not only racist, Covid-19 is also a confirmed misandrist and ageist, and a suspected ableist

    _
    * genetic difference my theory: white europeans explored world for over 1,000 years, exposed to many nasties, immunity/defence increased due to deaths. Yellow, Brown, Black tended to stay in place – less immunity/defence. Thoughts?

  21. ‘If coronavirus doesn’t discriminate, how come black people are bearing the brunt?’

    The ones in Africa aren’t. Maybe it’s time to go back.

    Guardian demanded I register to read the article. That’s never happened before. I’ll register when Warren Zevon does.

  22. @Steve April 9, 2020 at 9:22 am

    But from the outset, we should also have been talking about race

    Yep, I said that in early March – ignored, silence, crickets, racist, white superiority

    Some of us here reiterated over last week – ignored, silence, crickets, racist, white superiority

    Trump tried too – howls of racism, white superiority

    – “As we have seen time and time again, when government policy claims to be race neutral it ignores the fact that some groups need additional protection or support.” -.

    Groups such as lower class white children in Rotherham, Oxford, Bristol, Newcastle, Glasgow, etc.

    Spot on

    How would ‘President Biden’ handle the coronavirus pandemic?
    https://youtu.be/lWgZ56XCOWM?t=139

    VP Pence blasts WHO’s accountability in exclusive ‘Hannity’ interview
    https://youtu.be/ipya_OvxYbQ?t=200

    Rep. Doug Collins, R-GA on endorsing resolution to withhold federal funds from WHO
    https://youtu.be/UFrJk7hiDOY?t=308

    Not just WHO, UK & USA (and EU) should stop funding all UN bodies

    Start by investigating Tedros and what he did in Ethiopia and then his connections to Gates and China

  23. @PF April 9, 2020 at 12:55 pm

    +1 Tory Brandon Lewis on BBC QT was asked about sunbathing in parks, beaches etc as no danger. Answer waffle, blah, you might walk past/leave CV on, listen to experts, stay home, if it saves one life mantra

    Absolute bullshit: health experts want zero deaths, funeral experts want more deaths, green experts want 7 Billion deaths, economic experts ask is cost worth pain.

    Brandon Lewis, your job is to decide what is best for all UK; not obey, pander, defer and blame Chosen health ‘experts’. Cost to UK is ~£2.4bn/day, 1,000pd deaths delayed by shutdown is not worth costs

    @Agammamon

    Interesting on SCA any refs?

    @Gamecock

    No “register” here, although box on right “Reg to enjoy [ha, ha] uninterrupted…” Guardian blocking USA Trump supporters?

    Most in below North Africa will be taking anti-malaria drugs which @BiG wants to be restricted to Arthritis & Lupus use only

    Inconvenient Facts and Numbers
    https://youtu.be/-HQakEfWC14?t=147

    CV-19 Scam-demic

    Covid-19 Global Deaths: 87,816
    https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/geographical-distribution-2019-ncov-cases

    UK All Cause Annual Deaths: ~615,000
    Global All Cause Annual Deaths: ~58 Million (58,000,000)

  24. Correcting Ahua Hirsch’ Lies
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBxk3OP61_0

    I like how percentages suddenly started to matter – Minorities are ~20% (Not 40%) of NHS staff [and ~90% of CV deaths] – Me, Me, Me!
    Minorities make 99% of domestic terrorists – embarrassing silence
    Minorities make 99% of the rape/grooming gang members – crickets

    If a virus is hitting “your people” harder than anyone else, then the problem is with your people. Very simple

    Leftists: It’s racist to think minorities have the capacity to exercise free thought and self control
    I’m tired of hearing about how everything is racist/xenophobic xyzist/phobic Left SJW Mob need to stfu

  25. K, Pcar, I tried again. Turns out there is a ‘not now’ button next to the ‘register free’ button. Which got me the rest of the article.

    I’m so used to the fade out on the telegraph website, I hadn’t looked any further. Now I know.

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