Entirely true

If people could do the unthinkable to their economies to slow a pandemic, they could do the same to arrest catastrophic climate change

They – we – could. We could also take the example we have in front of us, the effect of it, and declare “Fuck that!”

Which is the way I would bet on it.

Which leads to what we really should be doing:

The coronavirus outbreak gives us a neat experiment in what happens when humans suddenly dramatically reduce both production and consumption. And, to put it mildly, most of us are not enjoying it one bit. That suggests that instead of the hair shirtery favoured by the Gretas of this world, our best solution is creating the technologies that allow us to keep consuming while also keeping the planet cool with our doing so.

and technological advance means more markets, more capitalism, more globalisation and, shock horror, less taxation.

12 thoughts on “Entirely true”

  1. Second (and third?) order effects, in’tit.

    So modern civilisation works quite well when most people are fat and happy. What happens when they aren’t?

    History doesn’t repeat itself, but it rhymes. The global economic woes of the 30’s led to a marked increase in authoritarian strongmen, funny little moustaches, social unrest.

    Uniformed authoritarianism probably won’t come back into style in the West, but you don’t need to be David Icke to be concerned about the possibly explosive mix of mass unemployment, fear and loathing of germs, and governments and the FAGS openly discussing massive, permanent digital surveillance.

  2. Some people seem to think that all the stuff in the shops grows on a magic tree. There is stuff that I consume that I have a stock of, cleaning products for instance. I can still buy them for the time being because retailers have a stock of them as well. If no one is making them the supply will eventually run out. The fact that this hasn’t yet happened makes the zero carbon idiots say ‘look, all those nasty industries have stopped emitting CO2 and nothing has changed. We can just do without them’.

  3. Its funny – he doesn’t think that maybe *he* should slow his ‘productivity’ in order to fight climate change.

  4. It wouldn’t be half as bad. For starters, the eco-loons wouldn’t close the schools and nurseries. Have you tried working from home with three toddlers running around?

  5. At least the US is talking about a plan, 6 weeks to implement all the phases, but some hope of an end in sight. better than the U.K. another 3 weeks and we’ll see attitude or Canada continued pronouncements of it goes on as long as we say and even then it’s not going to be normal for years so get used to it.
    Telling people what to do and frightening them into complying is not leadership, despite what many western leaders think

  6. Bloke in North Dorset

    Swedish epidemiologist Prof Johan Giesecke who is advising the Swedish governments thinks we really fucked up going in to lock down and he doesn’t see how we get out of it because the numbers of deaths will always rise as we relax the conditions.

    This really is worth watching: https://www.pscp.tv/unherd/1MYxNkyZLOQKw?t=1m46s

    He’s really scathing about the modelling that was used to panic the government in to the lock down. I’ve also read elsewhere that the model hasn’t even been hindcasted.

    I also recommend searching Johan Norberg (Too many links get rejected) on YouTube and watching his latest where he explains why they’ve taking the course they have and makes some interesting reference.

  7. “He’s really scathing about the modelling that was used to panic the government in to the lock down. I’ve also read elsewhere that the model hasn’t even been hindcasted.”

    They weren’t models, just college boys standing in front of a computer making guesses.

  8. @BniC April 17, 2020 at 6:42 pm

    Spot on. Rabb et al are behaving like scared children hiding behind sofa and doing nothing in fear it might be wrong

    “Set Us Free”
    US President Donald Trump has vowed to reopen America declaring a long-term shutdown was unsustainable and creating sweeping physical and mental health issues.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd-KgiUAtyU

    This bint is perhaps the biggest scared, panicking leader in Aus and has enforced draconian restrictions and fines
    NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian says “children could face a year or longer at home” if the state does not introduce face-to-face learning at some level.

    She needs a good slap and removed by HM Governor of Aus

    @BiND

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfN2JWifLCY ?

    @Diogenes

    The choice is stark. Save 40,000 grannies dying <~9 months sooner or save 65 Million from recession & bankruptcy, the choice is clear: "For the Many, Not the Few"

    FTFY

    Boris, Hancock, Rabb, Gove need to listen to Sunak and buck up and do what's best for UK and stop prioritising & protecting the few. How could Left "For the Many, Not the Few" disagree?

  9. Steve said:
    “The global economic woes of the 30’s led to a marked increase in authoritarian strongmen, funny little moustaches, social unrest.”

    It’ll be hipster beards this time round.

  10. ‘If people could do the unthinkable to their economies to slow a pandemic, they could do the same to arrest catastrophic climate change’

    Crying in his beer. The pandemic is a successful Unifying Cause. This lame ass catastrophic climate change isn’t working.

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