There Will Be Order!

Richard Murphy says:
April 1 2020 at 10:31 am
Price controls and rationing

Small prices to pay for keeping people fed and maintaining social order

It’s the relish with which the social order is to be enforced that concerns.

27 thoughts on “There Will Be Order!”

  1. Exactly whose and what “social order” ? One man’s Utopia is another man’s oppressive dictatoriat….

  2. Bloke in North Dorset

    I haven’t read them yet, apparently there’s article in the FT (paywalled) and Guardian that detail growing discontent at the lock down in Spain and Italy. For all its faults the government here is right to resist calls for further lock down.

  3. Dennis, He of the Consistent Panda Bear Shape

    I must have missed all the social unrest and starvation in the UK….

    I’m having a devil of time finding it here in ‘Merica as well.

  4. I must have missed all the social unrest and starvation in the UK…

    I’ve been into a good number of super markets over the last week or so(part of the job at the moment). The vast majority’s of people are queuing happily outside and observing fairly good social distancing once inside. Over the last few days especially the shelves have been re-stocked of most things, with a bit of pasta, soup, rice being low or out of stock. Fresh meat and veg is fine. There is no problem keeping people fed. Spud has no clue what he’s on about. Wanker

  5. I’m guessing he cant afford his grocery bill and could do with losing a few pounds.
    The arrogance that he’d be setting the prices and setting the rations is quite pronounced too.

  6. Herr Oberst Kartoffel just can’t wait to don the Hugo Boss uniform with the nice lightning epaulettes.

  7. Price controls and rationing

    Small prices to pay for keeping people fed

    Just like rent controls keep people housed… *looks at NY homeless rates* ok maybe not.

  8. Both Lidl and Waitrose in our town are seemingly back to normal in terms of stock levels (other than loo roll) and as others have reported the shoppers are keeping their distance and aren’t panic buying anymore. Which Murphy can’t hack because it doesn’t fit the narrative he wants to spin. Cunt.

  9. France… run on sliced bread, pasta and rice, and hand soap, all else fine… now about to enter second two week period of house arrest, teasing us with the possibility of a third and fourth if we are good.

    This is to stop/reduce spread of the virus.

    But…

    In order to free up bed space in metropolitan areas so as to be able to cope with the expected (still waiting) rush of serious plague victims, non-critical cases are being evacuated by high speed trains to other areas of France where hospitals have bed space.

    Nothing like sending the virus by TGV all round France to help contain it is there?

    Meanwhile, by now about 1 billion pieces of A4 will have been printed off as permits to go out, and another billion at least over the next couple of weeks. Tough time for trees. Don’t tell Sting.

  10. View from the Solent

    I’m surprised at how swiftly the supermarkets have upped their replenishment cycles. When you consider that suddenly there are no school meals, people who ate during their working day in canteens, cafes, . …. . and all the cooked food outlets that are closed, that’s an enormous increase in the number of meals that are being supplied domestically.
    So it’s not just panic buying that has emptied the shelves.

  11. Empty shelves are like traffic queues that propagate backward long after the original holdup has cleared. Bog rolls must be one of the most predictable items for JIT supply. Some people only keep a roll and spare and shop often, others bulk buy at infrequent intervals; doesn’t matter, overall there will be a steady demand. But a hint of a shortage, may as well buy a roll now rather than next shopping trip, excess demand, better keep a few more rolls than usual, now there is a shortage. Those who did not stock up now find none to buy, and even more need to keep a few more rolls than usual.

  12. Rationing is a hallmark of socialist ideology – everybody shall eat what the great panjandrum decides that they ought to eat whether they like it or not. There isn’t actually a shortage of food and drink or of household necessities, just a number of cases of empty shelves due to panic buying by selfish individuals spurred on by social media and the time it takes to restock.
    This morning I walked over to wrinklies hour at the Sainsbury’s in the next town and when I was allowed in (they had set a maximum number of shoppers in the store and then operated a one-out, one-in policy) I had no trouble getting everything on my list except a pineapple. Previous visit twelve days ago I got less than half the items on my list.
    No need for price controls: they were still running special offers apart from multi-savers.
    Murphy is disconnected from reality.

  13. I went to our local big Tesco today, towards the end of the ‘wrinkly’ session (I qualify). Quite a few going in weren’t wrinklies & when I got in, it was quite busy – not Saturday morning level but more than I would have expected. It certainly made distancing difficult. Plenty of stock but gaps in some areas. I got everything on my list, and we’ve bought no more than we would normally of items. Mrs TG tried to do an online shop for delivery about a week hence, but no slots available, so one of us will need to go in next week.

  14. “France… run on sliced bread”

    Blimey, didn’t think sliced bread was even permitted in France.

  15. Jussi, I didn’t check as I bought a job lot last year for reasons. I did buy some fresh yeast from the local baker recently as Tesco wouldn’t sell me there’s from the bakery for health and safety reasons (god help us). Anyway, your point re yeast is very apposite. Try buying a bread making machine in the U.K. None anywhere. The number of budding bakers has gone through the roof!

  16. How long would it take to set up rationing? Months minimum. All dependents would need to be allocated, quantities assessed, cards printed etc. Even if it worked you’d have to start the process long before it was required.

    And in the modern world simply printing books would be a waste of time, so you’d need quite flash technology.

    So rationing would arrive too late, be inefficient and easy to circumvent. Perfect for government then!

  17. Blimey, didn’t think sliced bread was even permitted in France.

    France is now a nation of Chorleywood process sliced loaves and ready meals. Boulangeries are dying on their culs because, while there may be nothing finer to eat at breakfast than a freshly-baked baguette, by lunch it has turned into a rock-like object, fit only to go into brandade. And Frenchwomen no longer have the time (or inclination, probably) to shop twice a day.

  18. “It certainly made distancing difficult.”

    Thank you for not adding a superflous adjective.

  19. “All dependents would need to be allocated, quantities assessed, cards printed etc.”

    I heard that I could get a $1,200 check from the Coronavirus Relief Bill of 2020. Then there are deductions. I’ll be lucky if I don’t owe them money.

  20. Gamecock: I saw your earlier bon mot on the subject, which made sense, and I wouldn’t want to wind you up 🙂

  21. Given the queues for every supermarket round here, it is unclear to me how Capt Potato can blog so frequently and go shopping. He must be hoping for rationing so that there is something left to buy when he eventually emerges from his smeg-bunker

  22. @View from the Solent

    A lot of wholesale catering suppliers are now supplying retail stores. I’ve noticed quite a few new brands in simple packaging

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