Ghastly bollocks from the New York Times

And we need to ensure every American can obtain a high-quality education regardless of the value of their family home. The economic gaps between people are compounded because funding for public institutions is tightly linked to the wealth of local communities. In underfunded urban school systems, even the most successful students struggle to rise.

You’re surprised to read nonsense in the NYT, right?

Urban school systems tend to get more money than average. One I recall was that Baltimore, which has appalling schools, was in the top 10 school districts nationwide for funding.

The problem is the ghastly management of those urban systems, not the amount of money. Urban areas in the US tending to be one party states – which party doesn’t make all that much difference even if they all happen to be D.

13 thoughts on “Ghastly bollocks from the New York Times”

  1. America is a country in which social mobility is relatively low ( compared to civilised countries ).I worry about comparing the US to a European country because, it is so much larger and more various,so I do take that with a pinch of salt.Nonetheless the American day dream, that anyone can make it is, like so much of their deluded self mythologising; crap.
    If you allow that areas of the State`s face social divergence quite beyond anything we do in Europe however , and I do, it is exceptionally bold to blame the management of the schools in question. How on earth would you know ?

  2. By the way that bastion of free speech Redwood will almost certainly not publish this comment (its the truth filter)

    Oh rich rich ….hilarity shall pour forth. John Redwood has sudden discovered that he is concerned about Ed Millibands pre equality agenda and social deprivation…Magnificent.
    If anyone really cared about education the secondary schools would be back and the idea that 2 months of main stream Primary education will set right multi-generational social problems is again ..magnificent ….
    Might I remind everyone that it was the Conservative Party that cancelled Sure Start and the Conservative Parry who squeezed educational budgets losing facilities, programmes and staff to deal with vulnerable children. The Conservative Party who dumped the whole problems into main stream education in the first place .. (.They don`t care their kids go to private school natch )
    Finally while he has been sitting in his cubby hole my wife has been to work looking after key worker children and socially vulnerable children anyway and was delighted to do so .
    She is less sure about herding an entire Primary school into limited space safely and the assurances of Michale Gove, vicious attacks on thoroughly decent people, and transparent cant, do not help anyone’s temper .

    You are losing confidence and you need to stop assuming people are stupid

    Makes me feel better anyway

    Thanks Tim

  3. Might I remind everyone that it was the Conservative Party that cancelled Sure Start

    You’ve forgotten, again, that you’re pretending to be a One Nation Conservative. Only Guardianista bedwetters care about the gross waste of money that was Sure Start.

  4. Sometimes I read a comment that seems lucid and then suddenly it starts diverging into the ridiculous. I scroll back and it is written by … Newmania.

    Please stop posting.

  5. In addition to the dreadful mismanagement of urban schools, you have the problem of dysfunctional families. Children with a bad home environment don’t come to school ready to learn, are undisciplined, etc. It doesn’t take too many of them to make a school fail. There is a much closer correlation to good families than to anything else.

  6. Esteban is apparently in the USA but he could be talking about London. Data for the UK as a whole is periodically provided that varies a bit but typically it says that two-thirds of middle-class children were studying and two-thirds of lower-class ones were not (the aggregate numbers imply that decent working-class were nearer middle-class than lower-class)

  7. Places like Washington, DC spend enough per child per year to afford a quality education at any good state college or university in the country.

  8. When I was younger several States in the USA invented “busing” to take children from poor neighbourhoods to schools in wealthier neighbourhoods that were paid for by taxes on the residents of those wealthier neighbourhoods. It seems that the NYT has failed to notice something that was noticeable to many of us the other side of the Atlantic Ocean.
    There is *some* nonsense in the NYT that *is* surprising to read.

  9. @MC

    +1 Sure Start was proved to make no positive difference and a waste of money. It was a Gov’t funded coffee club for Lefties

  10. ‘several States in the USA invented “busing”’

    It was actually invented by Federal courts. A gross expansion of the courts’ power. Long term, it accomplished nothing.

  11. Here’s how it works: Northern U.S. city school teachers are unionized. The union supports Democrat candidates. Democrat governments give everything to the teachers, because they know they’ll get it back.

    It has FA to do with education.

    ‘And we need to ensure every American can obtain a high-quality education regardless of the value of their family home. The economic gaps between people are compounded because funding for public institutions is tightly linked to the wealth of local communities. In underfunded urban school systems, even the most successful students struggle to rise.’

    Word salad gibberish to get people to accept government lavishness with schools.

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